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01-26-2013 09:13 AM - edited 01-26-2013 11:33 AM
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So What is Darrle Saying here ? That really nobody has a clue ? because of weather -- S.A. Production ?
Useage here ? Ethanol useage ?
Or maybe - I'll tell after the season is over , lol
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01-26-2013 10:59 AM
ECI - Hope Darrel keeps his day job, because he does't know jack about what is going on out here in the real world. So he wants toknow what yields will be if the rains do not come, how about 50 bu. average in Iowa! Who really gives a rats ass about a 10 year comic book projection by USDA? When was the last time they were right.? Well ECI, you had better run right down to the elevator and contract 13,14,15 corn production because we are having 99 million acres of corn planted. I have seldom read an article with so may "weasel words" ( you know CYA) in a report from someone who draws a paycheck, and has no skin in the game. Pass the popcorn and get me another Corona. Adios Amigos.
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01-26-2013 12:31 PM
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01-26-2013 02:20 PM
"10 year comic book prediction by the USDA." That pretty well sums it up. I'm not sure why everyone takes their stuff seriously. Maybe they need to shorten the latest trendline yields using the last three years.
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01-26-2013 04:50 PM - edited 01-26-2013 04:52 PM
ECIN, are you just trying to point out the insanity of this article? If so, that's loud and clear!!
{ A calculation of the true technological trend in average yields requires that yield observations be “corrected” for annual variations in weather conditions. Such correction requires the application of models that separately account for the yield impact of technology and weather. A failure to do so can result in a biased estimate of trend. Following three consecutive years of low corn yields, a trend calculation that does not adjust for variations in weather conditions will understate trend yield for 2013.} - quote from article.
stab at unraveling this idea? He's purporting there is real world VALUE in calculating hypothetical trend that is IMPOSSIBLE to calculate (because the world hasn't invented a 97 million acre climate controlled facility) to run such an experiment...........the insanity of this idea reaches a whole new level of profoundness when he says a failure to take the real world out of the equation CAN result in a bias (i suppose he means -TOO biased to the {actual, real world trend]
finally, this 4 line idea takes a THIRD twist to yet a deeper level of insanity when it says effectively - if we consider the actual, real world conditions BESIDES TECHNOLOGY trend yield is mis-stated. WOW, THIS IS GETTING GOOD -NO PUN HERE FELLAS.
let me tell you something: in the real world when running a research project or scientific experiment and one REMOVES certain or ALL (but 1) variables - that is called manipulation of data or processes to obtain a false or otherwise pre-intended "special interest result."
-----aahhaa those "experts" can be particularly crafty at their attempts to clutter and SPIN the mind, EY. Got TO REALLY watch out for the ones with a bunch of letters or en (titles) ments after the name.
I don't have to repeat the quote or thread that recently pointed out the 10 yr. trend in the REAL world is down. (MT)
c-x-1
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01-26-2013 11:56 PM
Pretty clear and pretty fair summation, it seems to me. The article explains where we are, why and helps us understand what decisions we have to make for marketing and risk management in 2013.
Some key points:
"The question is whether production will fully rebound from the extremely low level of 2012 as it has following other droughts over the past 50 years."
Most times, the year after a drought rebounds to normal production. We all know big acres are expected. So - does that mean we may have a bumper or even record crop?
"Most base their early yield expectations on an analysis of trend yield. " Then he goes on to warn that because of the way they are calculated, trend lines will likely be low if they are not adjusted.
He points out, "A second consideration for some in forming early yield expectations is the state of soil moisture going into the planting season. " And goes on to warn that last year is an example of where sub soil moisture was not as big a factor as in-season rainfall (I don't agree with his conclusions on this point).
I think his point in the aritcle is: "While prices for the 2013 corn crop are currently about $0.70 below the peak reached in September 2012, they are well above the level that would be expected if the 2013 crop reached its full potential."
To summarize:
1. Most analysts expect a lot of acres to be planted (he shows how they have been wrong in the past).
2. Because of the way trend lines are calculated, they may be artifically low (even more production than expected would mean even lower prices)
3. He says most years after a drought the crop bounces back.
His bottom line is that while grain price is lower than last summer, it may be a lot higher now than if predictions come to pass.
The question for each of you (us) is:
Will the large number of acres be planted?
Will the drought of 2012 carry over or act like it usually does and recover?
Will the production reflect a realistic trend line or an artificially lower one?
What will prices be if the weather recovers, the acres are planted and the realistic trend line is followed? If you believe the possibilities will be realized, what do you do about it now while the prices are high? Will you forward contract now?
2013 corn production could indeed be as he warns. If production is low, some would say that instead of a big price rise we will see more demand destruction and corn may not go much about $7.50. They claim buyers would go to Brazil, ethanol would reduce (and the RFS might be dropped), livestock would liquidate again/more. If y ou think we'll have a bad production year but the prices won't rise much, then what? Buy max insurance? Plant soybeans?
I think his article makes us think about what we expect and gives us fair warning that we need to make some decisions soon if we believe certain ways because they opportunity may not be there later.
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01-27-2013 06:48 AM
Good Sunday Morning !
First off -- Thanks c-x-1 and Jim - enjoyed reading both of your posts on this -- One article - two different takes , This may sound wishy - washy , but have to agree with both of your posts , Why ? I think you both are picking up what Darrel was saying .
c-x-1 , The part you posted about trend , and to adjust for weather -- Was Darrel just saying here , hey guys there is no way in he11 to figure this out ? How many years do you use ? How do you figure the weather in ? And so on .
Jim - You said that Darrel is giving us the info , on all the IF'S and to help make a decision , right ? Well that's true , but how do you figure that out , when there is no good way to figure trend or yield or summer weather , what the dollor will do , will there be a war ?
I do think one thing that Darrel missed was what about all the extra acres ? Some from CRP ( thats some high powered ground ) some from fringe area's ? What will that do to trend ? or yield ?
Bumper crop -- very much dought it ! Record crop ? very well could be .
It seems to me that farming has changed , it's not which crop to raise any more , but which crop to farm the insurance company for = what has the best pay out .
Hey ! that may be a great way to figure planted acres !!!! just call the insurance company and see what pay's the best ! LOL
Sniff, insert, chew, swallow... ..
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01-27-2013 08:09 AM
Yack!
Repeat..
Better known as regurgitation....
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01-27-2013 08:32 AM
Jim : Really like your analysis of DG's outlook..... I read it threw 3 times and was always saying to myself..... well , it could go like this and on the other hand....maybe not !!! You summed it up in away that makes sense to me. In the end will still have to wait and see how it all turns out !!! Thanks John
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01-27-2013 09:55 AM
I agree Jim, seems like a pretty good analisis by some one that won't profit financialy by the market moving on what he says and trying to sell me protection against it.




