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Re: 7 years not that long

Trump's transparency bill to make medical provider list what everything costs is going to help drive down costs as people will finally get a chance to shop and compare.

If you are able to get the price of a superbowl ticket down to $10, you can post that. Really don't think that is very likely to happen, though, but its nice to dream about sugar mountain.

Everything gets rationed, one way or another.

Veteran Advisor

Re: 7 years not that long

Very few medical bills paid directly by the patient and under the Master Charge system you end up paying 2-3X what insurance or medicare pay.

The insurance companies already know what they all charge- they effectively set the price or negotiate it. 

M4A isn't going to happen anytime soon but a strong public option that paid at medicare rates would be a lot cheaper- 20% administrative and 20% average lower reimbursement rates.

As they currently do now- some providers might refuse or attempt to limit the number of medicare (public option) patients because they're less lucrative. Probably can't 100% mandate away from that but it could be limited as it is for medicare.

And as my Doc friend says, he might just go 100% public option/medicare or as much as his existing patient base permits- he pays a lot for staff to hassle with insurance companies.

The path to M4A is to have such a good public option that it ultimately crowds out private insurance. They won't, but if they can't continue to kill everything the insurance companies might be better off accepting the Swiss model where they continue to exist but only as the privatized administrators of a highly regulated public plan.

 

Advisor

Re: 7 years not that long

nutz,  you should just put your posts over in agri laugh.

Would have to be one helluva big stadium to get close to 400 million people in to see the big show especially with free or near free tickets.....I watch my older neighbors put off their ailments that need attention until medicare kicks in, and then they have claims approaching a million dollars....no way that the US medical system absorbs that for all....it's the sad reality.

Decent healthcare is a privilege......charltons might tell you its a right, but it's not. Its really sad to get people thinking something is going to happen that never will.

I don't enjoy decent healthcare myself...it is nearly impossible to find an MD with any experience and intellect anymore in the rural areas....they get pirated away or never show up in the first place. A good MD in a small town is about as rare as a good ELCA minister, and that is with the current rules.

Veteran Advisor

Re: 7 years not that long

Advisor

Fellow “contributors”...Please Note:

This fella lives within 20 minutes of one of the more expansive health centers...clinics, doctors and hospitals.....short of Rochester and The Twin Cities in our fair state.

Nobody with a 1000 miles who will yank your kid’s tonsils or set your broken arm for chickens or garden produce of course.

Senior Contributor

Re: 7 years not that long

Canada is exploring some private pay options to get the fatal wait times down for some medical procedures..

If you check you will find that almost all doctors in Canada are private entrepreneurs that just bill the single payer system rather than the patient 

Senior Contributor

Re: 7 years not that long

Yes Romney like all believers are not living in reality BUT he listened to the evidence and unlike others who recognized the illegal operation your dear leader was conducting voted for what the evidence showed not for what your King demanded

Senior Contributor

Re: 7 years not that long

It didn’t take seven years for Benedict Arnold to turn on George Washington. 

Every great leader seems to have traitors around them. 

Advisor

Re: Fellow “contributors”...Please Note:

that's probably where one of my fake lake places is that you seem to think I own...maybe its the one where I stack up the furniture every fall and burn it to make room for the new stuff that comes in on the furniture truck.