Here is the link to part of the interview with Tony Schwartz. I hope you got to see the whole thing....
https://archive.org/details/CNNW_20160910_000000_Anderson_Cooper_360#start/780/end/840
Start around minute 5:10, and go from there. I'd print it out here, but I don't have the time this morning, since I needed to once again redo one of my morning posts.
Jen
