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Senior Contributor

Talk about wind!

You do realize those were and still are Socialist projects, don't you? Fine examples too of the government stepping in where the private sector would not, and could not afford to provide for the people through tax dollars and create government jobs.

 

Also, how do you feel about subsides to the oil industry when they obviousally do not need them?

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Re: Talk about wind!

Hydroelectric was a proven dependable power source back then and still is today.  Wind power was for pumping water......notice all windmill pumps also had a handle for when the wind didn't blow.

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Re: About that wind power

If you were simply obstinate or even simply deprived of exposure to facts and matters, it would be one thing.  But to be a total ideaology driven fool is another.  

 

Don was, obvious to anyone familiar with the matter of energy infrastructure and how it came to be, was refering to how those projects were approved, implemented and financed.  They were massive public initiatives, funded through a bit of taxation and a ton of bonding and leverage. That YES....paid for themselves many times over.  

 

If if new and better nuke plants (which I think would be great, BTW) or possibly even thorium facilities of some sort as discussed here (if that would really wwork, not just because some Monday morning survivalist wannbee tells us so) or the ever illusive cold fusion were seen as the way to go would you approve of public resources being made available and utilized?  Maybe just under a Republican administration?  There were tons of windmills around here before your Hated Obama was elected. Hundreds of them went up during the Reagan and Bush 41 administrations. 

 

Would you you expect public funded or bond financed, or even subsidized for that matter, energy research and development to totally cease under a Cruz or Rubio or Carson or which ever of those clowns you support? Or leave it to the market to be run like the Indiana Turnpike?

 

What a total hate driven nimrod. 

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Advisor

Re: About that wind power

All they had to do to the Indiana turnpike was tear the toll booths down and let them be handled like any other road. If you are gonna toll them then toll all of them if not then you can't cherry pick where the toll booths are.

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Re: Talk about wind!

Never said it wasn't dependable. Some of our socialistic hydroelectric projects are still some of our greatest achievements. Some even combine river navigation and electric generation and are run by the government   - US Army Corps of Engineers, not to mention scores of lake hydroelectric projects. I am glad you are seeing that some Socialist Government projects are well worth having and agree that they work and have paid for themselves.

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Re: About that wind power

Do you have any idea how those roads come into existence over half a century ago? How the Governor put them under foreign control?  What the heck is with you clowns?

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Advisor

Re: About that wind power

Built with taxpayer dollars. Taken over by the state to make money on them. Sold by Mitch so he could have money for pet projects.

 

The first was a good idea. The second two-not so much.

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Senior Contributor

Re: About that wind power

Obama is the nimrod, Bruce.  $535 million+ to Solyndra.....GONE.  Most of those early wind towers have been taken down and scrapped, they are not worth what it costs to maintain them.  All bad ideas, politicians are not held accountable for their stupid ideas anymore.  When is the last time this country has done something great?  Surely not during the last 7 years.  Maybe Trump will change that.

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Re: Talk about wind!

I think representatives of we the people should have a say in it.....unlike Solyndra.

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Re: Talk about wind!


@KNAPPer wrote:

You do realize those were and still are Socialist projects, don't you? Fine examples too of the government stepping in where the private sector would not, and could not afford to provide for the people through tax dollars and create government jobs.

 

Also, how do you feel about subsides to the oil industry when they obviousally do not need them?


Yes they are government projects. They are projects that work well and producing clean cheap energy. But we now have movements working to tear out dams because fish can't swim upstream to spawn. New dams can no longer be built for the same reason. There are places for government...for instance....to build a border wall to keep ILLEGAL aliens from entering the country. A project that needs to be started immediately.

 

Oh, as for subsidies to the oil companies.....talk about being stuck on stupid. We don't have the money. Why do we waste public resources on stupidity when those resources are needed to secure our borders? We are ruled by frauds and morons.