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colinnorris1
Senior Contributor

Re: Again - You can't truly vote against a candidate

As what is done in every election, the main contender's rivals will be tapped on the shoulder and offered ambassadorships to some far flung outpost, if they concede defeat, clearing the way for the most popular candidate to go to the finish. No person in there right mind will deliberately sabotage the election and its victory benefits for the sake of their egos. Not even the repigs will do that. Entertaining such outrageous ridiculous scenarios for spite is what sinks good candidates.

r3020
Senior Advisor

Re: Again - You can't truly vote against a candidate


@KNAPPer wrote:

I hear over and over that someone plans to "vote against" a candidate, yet there is no place in an election ballot to vote against any particular candidate. I must say when I hear someone say they will "vote against" a candidate, the word stupid crosses my mind.

 

Of course referendums and certain other "yes/no - for/against" provisions are an exception. Only the state of Nevada has a vote against choice for elections and citizens there can vote against all candidates. That is of course not the same as voting say "against" a candidate. Our system collects the total votes "for" a candidate and the one with the most votes wins (we must consider the electoral college vs popular vote however). In a primary, voting for an underdog is almost near an against vote, but not really. In a general election, voting for a third party is sort of the same thing, but again, not really an against vote. I suppose there are a few stubborn people who fool themselves into thinking they are voting against a candidate, but in reality they are voting for someone.

 

This is an interesting article that explores the topic of "voting against" a candidate. I must remind some of our less cognisant members of the forum here that as it stands now, this does not exist and we cannot vote against a candidate....but what if we could?

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/georgeleef/2014/10/28/states-should-change-their-election-laws-to-permit...


In the last Presidential election I vote for Gary Johnson. Not because I thought he would win but because I refuse to vote for Mitt Romney and Romney care. It was a vote against Mitt Romney.

Red Steele
Veteran Advisor

Re: Again - You can't truly vote against a candidate

Kind of reminds me of the time my college buddy Bruce got into a tiff about how someone in our peer group failed to wash his hands after being a pee-er, and good ol Bruce commented that " at my high school (in the cities) gentlemen learned to wash afterwards"

 

Ted, another guy from the cities , and a future politican in MN told him, "well, North St. Paul might not be Edina, and maybe we are not perfect gentlemen, but we learned not to pee on our hands."

KNAPPer
Senior Contributor

Re: Again - You can't truly vote against a candidate

I'm not sure what that means Red, but I am sure you have it all figured out. I'd wash my hands because whoever pulled the handle before me, and the guy before that, and the guy before that may have some pretty foul stuff on their hands. I vote for hand washing myself - not against it.

OKdon
Senior Contributor

Re: Opinion such as it is.

Trump will be on the ballot but not on the republican ticket. The vast majority of republicans will reject him. IT is only the crazies that support him now. Those that think that governing does not require compromise. He is gonna build a good fence on our southern border and mexico will pay for it. How will he accomplish that. Well he says he will charge mexico $100k for every illegal the send to this country. What makes him think that mexico will cave to his order. How many of you think that foreign powers or even american politicos will cave to his "orders"?

 

Repubs will not nominate him. There just aint enough dittoheads on agonline to get the job done. Trump is not that popular in america. He has filed bankruptsy on 4 occasions. Meaning of course that he will break his word for his own convenience. Kind of like Limbaugh breaking 3 marriage contracts..

 

However, Trump's ego may convince him to run as a independent, but he will not get enough votes. He may quit before spending his own wealth. In fact I doubt he has the wealth that he pretends to have. Like you and I assuming our prime farm lnd is worth $12K per acre when $8K may be more realistic.

 

Scott Walker broke the unions in wisconsin and he is proud of that and mentioned it during his announcement. WE are in a era when wages have been stagnant for anumber of years and their is amovement to increase wages of the middle class along with amovement to increase minimum wage. Who is going to vote for a candidate that is proud of his wage oppression. The same folks that think the way to prosperity is lower wages for the masses. How thoughtfulis that? People need income if they are going to be consumers and big business needs buyer more than anything.

 

If I Understand you , you wish to increase the profits of businesses that don't want to pay taxes and you want to oppress the working class that do pay taxes. So your solution is stifled revenues making it impossible to balance the budget. You prefer the deficit so that you can argue that government can't afford to do things other than subsidize businesses and increase the defense budget.

OKdon
Senior Contributor

Re: Knapper the post was directed to the group, not to you specifically.

Just wanted to clarify that.

Re: Opinion such as it is.

You just told me the two candidates that your side is the most afraid of.
KNAPPer
Senior Contributor

Re: Opinion such as it is.

I don't want to speak for Don, but "fear" is the mileau of the right. Priorities are the mileau of the left. This is exactly you vote against and I vote for a candidate.