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Nebrfarmr
Veteran Advisor

Re: As a Republican

As far as the person doing the work, not getting any kind of bonus, regardless of the profit of who is 'hiring' them, it is.

In fact, being stingy with a custom operator may be worse, as his fuel costs could double, making them work for a mere pittance, while the landowner rakes it in.

What ever happened to 'sharing the wealth' with the little guy?

Nebrfarmr
Veteran Advisor

Re: As a Republican

So if Wal-Mart agrees to pay John Doe $80 a day for what they do, and make big bucks, without sharing the profits, it is bad.

If farmer K agrees to pay John Doe $80 an acre for what they do, and make big bucks, without sharing the profits, it is bad.

 

Sounds to me, like pretty much the same type of situation, the workers at Wal-Mart simply 'render a service', do they not?

Nebrfarmr
Veteran Advisor

Re: the truth of the matter is

So tell me what the minimum wage should be, and I'll tell you if I agree, or disagree with it.  You are making blind statements, with no specifics, just to badmouth one political party.

Nebrfarmr
Veteran Advisor

Re: As a Republican

I don't belive I ever said I was against increasing it.  However, I am not going to say I am 'for' something that has no details.  When you say 'increase' the minimum wage, but to what?  I am not going to say blindly 'yes' without knowing that amount.

So what should it be?  I'm waiting on that answer, before I'll say if it is OK, or too high.

When you hire your farm work done, do you negotiate a price, or just say 'do it, send me the bill, and I'll pay it'? 

Do you, or do yo not have the final say as to how much they will be paid? 

 

Nebrfarmr
Veteran Advisor

Re: As a Republican

Or a 'living wage' of well over $80,000 for a tollboth operator.

BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Make the minimum wage $15/hr.

I`d favor it, no more having to figure tips at restuarants..crappy service 10%, okay service 15%, hot waitress in skmpy outfit 30%, I`m confused.  Just make the chinzy restuarant owner pay a living wage and if she doesn`t do her work, fire her and stop this outdated nonsense of tipping. Okay I got retracked...$15 min wage, see right now folks working for less than a "living wage" are subsidized by the US taxpayers, those that make $8 basically only pay sales tax, certainly no federal tax or should they, they are poor.  Here`s what you would have to do to make $15 min wage work, slap a tariff on crap coming into this country.  Ship the Mexicans back and build a border fence with a moat full of alligators with a taste for Mexican food.  Workers from around the world would want to get in on the $15 gig.  Lastly, expect to paid a little more for goods in this country ie, $7 Wally-World shirt may go to $14, $700 flat screen tv may have a new price of $1500 or so.  All those changes would be fine with me, I`ll pay the extra, we got too much foreign crap already.  Tv in every room... that`s too damned many!

Nebrfarmr
Veteran Advisor

Re: the truth of the matter is


@kraft-t wrote:

Republicans favor employers deciding the compensation rate. They want a poor lower class that will be forced by circumstances to accept a meager paycheck that a businessman offers. That is why they hate unemployment benefits and minimum wage. They still want labor to be cheap and the want them forced to accept. You still beleive in the concept of supply demand even if people are starving.

 

Capitalism is not mentioned in the constitution, yet you favor it with a religious fervor. I don't know how christians can favor a very unchristian like business behavior. You favor the strong against the weak and obviously support business over labor always.

 

If you removed labor laws and dumped those socialist enemployment checks, do you think we would have more or less impoverished people in America? Do you think that would be good for america?


 

Will you let me form a committe, that will establish a 'minimum' wage you must pay your custom workers.

You have to decide if you are for it, or against it now, without any information about how high we will set his rates, other than to say, we will 'raise' the minimum you must pay.  Are you willing to go along with that?

If not, why do you say others should have to, or are you just for the working man being forced to accept what you, the employer, are willing to pay?

 

BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: the truth of the matter is

Hey Nebrfamr, the first rule of liberals is, they don`t live under the same laws as the rest of us.  Years ago a liberal columnist (big gun control guy) had someone break into his house, guess what?  He had a gun and held the crook for the cops.  Liberals always figure that they are slippery enough to get around the rules they make us live under.

kraft-t
Senior Advisor

Re: the truth of the matter is

You are confusing machine hire and labor. I don't hire labor. The guy that does the machine hire work hires the labor.

kraft-t
Senior Advisor

Re: As a Republican

Do you not see a difference between a company hiring labor and a businessman hiring custom work where the pay scale is based on labor plus equipment and fuel?

 

My custom operator is hired based on his equipment and ability. I assume his is well paid for his efforts along with the 2 or 3 thousand acres he farms besides mine.

 

I know you think you have a strong argument but you are wrong. It is not.