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why are they looking for minerals?  Nearly impossible not to be jaded. J u s t  a n o t h e r  r e s o u r c e  w a r .

 

WASHINGTON — The United States has discovered nearly $1 trillion in untapped mineral deposits in Afghanistan, far beyond any previously known reserves and enough to fundamentally alter the Afghan economy and perhaps the Afghan war itself, according to senior American government officials.........

 


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The US was accused of going to war in Iraq to steal their oil. The only problem is the US doesn`t understand the concept of stealing ....... you see to steal you actually have to take something. Iraq is just a money pit costing the US taxpayers. Who knows, maybe Afghanistan will be different. Here`s a link to how well our "going to war for oil" went.

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1948787,00.html

PS, The US gov`t is only good at stealing from the taxpayers  Smiley Sad 

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Would you provide some source or documentation of this claim? Not doubting you, just like verification. thanks. john k

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Click on the blue letters. It will take you to the New York Times.

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Here is another story. http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hRUjsdkyv4fR8fP-DxtA-G9g4mlg

 

You have to wonder if our deal with China is that they buy our treasurys so we can keep the sheeple placated and we use our military to procure natural resources for their growth.  Jaded I know, our original reason for going to Afghanistan was just, but why the heck are we wondering around looking for resources? 

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Could it be they are looking for resources that will bring the Afghanis into the 21st century. It seems to me that there is not many options to modernize that nation. Is it poppies that bring revenue to that land or is it Pakistan. In any event exportable resources should really give that country an economic boost.

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ah, what makes you believe the criminals in DC work for the USA?  These corporations are international and intertwined.   Remember this "story" in couple years, who pumps the oil from Alaska, the Gulf of Mexico?  But perhaps you have forgotten the secrete meetings with Cheney and the Oil Corporations at the start of the Cheney/Shrub administration?   Saddam was trying to start selling oil and gas in euros instead of U$ dollars, which is economic warfare.  ---http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrodollar_warfare ---snip--

The phrase petrodollar warfare refers to a hypothesis that a hidden, driving force of United States foreign policy over recent decades has been the status of the United States dollar as the world's dominant reserve currency and as the currency in which oil is priced. The term was coined by William R. Clark, who has written a book with the same title. The phrase oil currency wars is sometimes used with the same meaning.

Supporters of this hypothesis believe that the value of the U.S. dollar is determined by the fact that many key commodities(particularly oil and natural gas) are denominated in dollars. They believe that if the denomination changes to another currency, such as the euro, many countries would sell dollars and cause the banks to shift their reserves because they would no longer need dollars to buy oil and gas. This would weaken the dollar relative to the euro (see supply and demand). The core of the hypothesis is that U.S. administrations are greatly motivated by fear of the consequences of a weaker dollar, particularly higher oil prices. This motivation is seen as underlying and explaining many aspects of U.S. foreign policy, including the ongoing Iraq War.

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In 2000, Iraq converted all its oil transactions under the Oil for Food program to euros.[2] When U.S. invaded Iraq in 2003, it returned oil sales from the euro to the USD.[3]

After considerable delay, Iran opened an oil bourse which does not accept U.S. Dollars. Proponents of the petrodollar warfare hypothesis fear that the move will give added reason for the United States to overthrow the Iranian regime as a means to close the bourse and revert Iran's oil transaction currency to USDs.

In mid-2006 Venezuela indicated support of Iran's decision to offer global oil trade in the euro currency.[4]

Even a controversial change like that in Iran would have limited ability to influence the denomination of sales one way or the other. A large number of traders would have to agree to a change in denomination before a significant change occurred.

[edit]American Vulnerability

Of particular concern among many politicians, academics, and pundits is America's dependence on foreign oil. Many economists[who?]feel that the recent rise in oil prices is at least partially tied to the fall of the US dollar relative to most currencies. Since oil is priced in dollars, sellers have increased prices to compensate for the purchase of their product with a less valuable currency. Economists generally agree that higher oil prices pose a risk of inflation, recession, or both. Inflation would almost certainly rise if the dollar were to depreciate heavily.

At least one U.S. Representative, Republican Ron Paul of Texas, has made very strong statements advancing similar views, using the phrase “dollar hegemony” to describe U.S. policy and proposing related reforms.[5]    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrodollar

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You make a good point John, in this "flat world" we now live. Like Sam said, the US is becoming a mercenary outfit for China. In exchange China finances our deficts. There are no countries, only corporations.

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Just for a bit of irony...and recognition that some of us may be starting to understand each other at least a little..I remember full well john posting very similar pieces and comments as the war started up and got ramped up and every rightie in the house here  (full blown Bible thumper and cultural issue conservtives even moreso then) jumped him like banshees.......

 

don, millie , bart, wehav, gto and a few others from all sides could attest to that. Even dagwud from his perch in the mediatory middle and JohnR from under his hood.

 

Bettin' even that msb reads alot of these discussion and he could vouch for me on this.

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And while you are at The New York Times check this out...they did some research and wrote a piece on your upstart outfit:

 

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/13/the-very-angry-tea-party/?src=me&ref=general