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r3020
Senior Advisor

Business is viewed as the enemy by the progressives

For Harry Reid it is the Koch brothers who employee 47,000 Americans with high paying jobs with good benefits. For Sandra Fluke it is Hobby Lobby and Conestoga, a cabinet maker, both of whom provide American jobs. She is upset because if these two win their lawsuit she might actually have to cough up 35 cents/day to pay for her own birth control. She is willing to destroy corporations and jobs to get free birth control. Well tell me you progressives, if you do manage to destroy more American jobs who will pay for your birth control then? Do you view it as a job of the insurance company to pay for your birth control. That would be like your auto insurance paying for your oil changes and brake pads, or like your house insurance paying to vacume your floors. Insurance is suppose to be catastrophic events which could cost you most of your networth. The little day to day stuff can be handled much more effectively and efficiently by paying the bill yourself. Why would anyone want to hire another to pay for their birth control? It is quite revealing about who it is the progressives view as the enemies of this country.

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Red Steele
Veteran Advisor

Re: Business is viewed as the enemy by the progressives

How anyone could look at the trajectory of the life of Harry Reid, and then look at the lives of the Koch brothers, and have any doubts as to which are the real Americans is a complete puzzlement to me.

 

Its a pity that Reid hung on to win and got six more years in the last election. A complete piece of shizzle.

KNAPPer
Senior Contributor

Business is not viewed as the enemy by the progressives

Your argument (after clearing away a lot of debris & junk) seems to be that birth control is dirt cheap, so the employees should pay for it, but if the health care mandate makes the company's insurance pay for it, the company will go broke and jobs will be lost. How does that work? Is it cheap or expensive enough to break a company through insurance costs?

 

You are exaggerating. It is fine, even good, to have strong feelings, but why exaggerate when it is so obvious that you are making false claims?\

 

You should just say you object to the contraceptive mandate (or the whole Healthcare Act) on moral and spiritual grounds and be done with the parts that are not real.

kraft-t
Senior Advisor

Re: Business is viewed as the enemy by the progressives

Harry Reid has his station in life because the people elected him.  The Koch brothers only got one vote from their dad accompanied by billions in assets.

 

If you had the Koch billions would you spend vast amounts of it to rig the political system in your favor? Or would you search your heart on how to make life better for humanity.

 

After you win life's monopoly game, could you be satisfied with it or would your ego demand that you profit greater at the expense of the have nots?

r3020
Senior Advisor

Re: Business is not viewed as the enemy by the progressives


@KNAPPer wrote:

Your argument (after clearing away a lot of debris & junk) seems to be that birth control is dirt cheap, so the employees should pay for it, but if the health care mandate makes the company's insurance pay for it, the company will go broke and jobs will be lost. How does that work? Is it cheap or expensive enough to break a company through insurance costs?

 

You are exaggerating. It is fine, even good, to have strong feelings, but why exaggerate when it is so obvious that you are making false claims?\

 

You should just say you object to the contraceptive mandate (or the whole Healthcare Act) on moral and spiritual grounds and be done with the parts that are not real.


These two business owners will either have to go against their religious convictions or close their doors. If they choose to close there doors there will be a lot of people who are now working, earning a living, either looking for work or go on the government dole. As I said, to the progressive, business is an enemy which must conform to the wishes of the government or be destroyed.

KNAPPer
Senior Contributor

Re: Business is not viewed as the enemy by the progressives

Supreme court may just decide Hobby Lobby has the right to not have to accept the mandate according to some recent news on the subject. You should read what they are saying, especially Kennedy. Hobby Lobby of course does not have to shut their doors, though they may "choose" to do so (as you said) because of their religious convictions. They won't go out of business because of the cost of the mandate and you have said that as well. Stick to your moral arguments and try not to exagerate. There is nothing wrong with having religious convictions, but they are subject to the law of man in this world.

man of steel
Senior Contributor

Re: Business is viewed as the enemy by the progressives


@kraft-t wrote:

 

 

If you had the Koch billions would you spend vast amounts of it to rig the political system in your favor? Or would you search your heart on how to make life better for humanity.



Speaking of donations. Here is a link for ya. http://nypost.com/2014/03/16/loopy-liberals-freak-over-koch-brothers-100m-hospital-gift/

 

 

ollie2655
Senior Contributor

Re: obamolites should try once

to do without business but being the hypocrites they are they dont have the guts--- comes from obalmo down and they wont dare discuss who pays business expenses they are skeerd and dumb

kraft-t
Senior Advisor

Re: Business is viewed as the enemy by the progressives

Yeah! and that is like me flipping a quarter in the mix. I wonder how many taxes they avoided in the same period!

man of steel
Senior Contributor

Re: Business is viewed as the enemy by the progressives

I gave you one.Many others can be found if one would be willing to seek the truth

 

PS Seems the link is about you