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Senior Advisor

Congratulations to the liberals

You got everything you wanted. Fully funded Obama care for everyone except congress, their staff, public sector unions, and big business. Another trillion dollars in the debt limit. Now if you get amnesty you will win the triple crown. You have succeeded in the destruction of the baggers, the establishment reigns supreme. The progressive utopia speeds ahead full steam with absolutely nothing to slow it.

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Re: Congratulations to the liberals

Never mind, your reckless, feckless party in it's ignorance, has cost the American people another $28 billion dollars, right?? The supposed, "conservative party", is only conservative, if it serves their politcal agenda. Now, it's 2 unfunded wars, an unfunded prescription drug plan, and a failed attempt to repeal and defund a national law. Hang your heads in shame!!

Senior Advisor

Re: Congratulations to the liberals

You mean you don't have the power of persuasion. That is the first thing a politician has to master. To persuade people to vote for you. Then come the powersof persuasion need to be honed to prosper in the office you hold. That means you must persuade a majority to support Your legislation. Failing that you need to get better at what you do, negotiation.

 

The events of the last couple of weeks, indicate that if you try hardball politics you may be rewarded in kind. I think the president settled that dispute rather handily. If you try the same strategy the next time, you fully know what to expect. So maybe you best rethink your strategy. It aint working well for you.

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Re: Congratulations to the liberals


@kraft-t wrote:

You mean you don't have the power of persuasion. That is the first thing a politician has to master. To persuade people to vote for you. Then come the powersof persuasion need to be honed to prosper in the office you hold. That means you must persuade a majority to support Your legislation. Failing that you need to get better at what you do, negotiation.

 

The events of the last couple of weeks, indicate that if you try hardball politics you may be rewarded in kind. I think the president settled that dispute rather handily. If you try the same strategy the next time, you fully know what to expect. So maybe you best rethink your strategy. It aint working well for you.


Power of persuasion? Who needs persuasion when you can give away free stuff. McConnell got 3 billion for a new dam in KY. Business as usual. That neww trillion will disappear pretty quick. Next time Obama can raise it himself, the only way congress cab stop him is with a 2/3 vote. Let the free stuff flow.

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Re: Congratulations to the liberals

Wrong again goaty.    Your boy owns the Afkrapistan "unfunded" war.   He escalated troops in there in 2009 when he should have ordered a speedy withdrawal.  

 

The Drone-Assassin In Chief is your boy and he owns what's happened since 2009 under his watch.

 

 

Senior Advisor

Re: Congratulations to the liberals

Sorry to hear you are such a sore loser. That has been your problem all along. You can't accept defeat. By you I mean you and your fellow baggers that thought they were going to intimidate the president into capitulation. You didn't like the election results and you don't like him governing. He passes legislation into law and you try 40 plus times to repeal it without a ghost of a chance of success. Evidently you can't count the majority in the senate or the one guy in the white house. Sometimes losing is painful but ignorance make you to blame. Why would you even try such a flawed effort? 

 

Yes government spending will go on as it would if you had a republican held congress and senate. It may not be business as usual but yes our government needs to invest in dams and flood control. Obama hasn't been spending what doesn't have congressional support. They voted on it and passed the spending  and gave their complete approval for it.

 

But you can try again towards the end of beginning of the year. In the firast place the debt limit is not about congressional of presidential spending. It's about paying our obligations. Obligations the the congress of the united states incurred. You want to reneg on the countries obligations, so be it but you will experience the wrath of wall street and the common man and the national credit score would be zero.

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Re: BTW 3020 democrats got nothing out of the congressional shut down.

Just to clarify the matter, everything the democrats supposedly gained out of this exchange, they already had before the political shoot out began. They gained nothing , they kept what they had. Thus the whole exchange was a fruitless exercise for everybody.

 

You made the common mistake of thinking you could exact concessions by threat or intimidation. You failed but dems did not win anything. They merely retained what they had.

Honored Advisor

Re: Congratulations to the liberals

Hey 3020, it is good we did not go over the cliff, even for 1 minute because a recession anytime in the next 2 years would've been spun as "the Republican's fault". IMO this shouldn't have up to the 11th hour, we knew the Republicans would cave at some point and if they would've caved 2 days ago, it wouldn't have looked like as much of a cave Smiley Happy

On the bright side, as much as I'm sure he and the Carney wants to, they can't be seen as doing a "end zone dance" but Lord knows his surrogates in the media will. Also these Henny Penny "sky is falling" economic doom warnings are coming across as phoney as global warming. Now unless Obama starts a war, we can now focus on the failures of obamacare...people have short term memories on this debt ceiling stuff, as long as there's beer in the fridge, I doubt Joe 6 pack knew there was a shutdown as mesmorized by ESPN as he is.

Bottom line is elections have consequences and this all was settled on November 6th of last year. As my Grandmother was reported to have said "if you can't learn you'll have to feel!".

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Re: Congratulations to the liberals

Just heard - Obama & his far left crew definately the big winners - well on our way to another trillion in debt.  The far left just couldn't find a way to even cut $1.

 

Well, the good news - the 4 liberal networks have been telling us how they would have been spending hours a day talking about the Obamacare disaster if it wasn't for the govt. shutdown - surely they weren't fibbing about that.  OK - A little sarcasm.

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