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Senior Contributor

Re: Did you miss don's post?

are  you saying that the requirement to carry insurance on your vehicle is a socialist propaganda program.

Been around many years.

but then I certainly do hope that AHC isn't like car insurance in that if you don't have it and something happens you get fined and then receive no help in restoring your insured object i.e. yourself or your family.

And I am sure that we all know people that do not insure their property.  There is always fundraiser dinners or something around here to help the people that have a house fire and carry no insurance.  There is also fundraisers on a regular basis to supplement for family's that have a catastrophic health event but don't have the insurance to cover it.

Even the Amish are smart enough to realize that if every one that might need help is going to get it every body has to pay into the pot.  They probably also realize some may never take from that pot and others will take a lot.

That is how they take care of themselves.   They just don't let a 3rd party i.e. an insurance company profit from it.

But then maybe the Amish are really Communists, ya think.

Honored Advisor

Re: Did you miss don's post?

First of all Amish are communists and they're inbred too, but its voluntary communism and them being stupid Germans, they somehow make it work. The car insurance that you have to carry is "liability"which makes sense. If you don't want to buy it walk or hire a taxi, actually I would favor waving car insurance if you could post a sufficient bond.

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Re: Did you miss don's post?

i'll say it's socialist. if that's the case then why do i have to buy uninsured motorist coverage?

Senior Contributor

Re: Did you miss don's post?

Dairy mom makes no difference what you call them, communists or any other name.

What the Amish are doing is following the bible as it tells all its followers to do.

 

One of the things that many churches have opted not to follow.

 

Will look up the chapter and verse if you wish.

Senior Contributor

Re: Did you miss don's post?

of course the Amish aren't communists.  They are for the most part pretty nice people and have a wonderful sense of community and fellowship.  Something that I believe was at one time touted as being one of the best features of rural living.  Neighbor helping neighbor.  Don't really see a whole lot of that now a days.  Some of course but really lttle stuff IMO.

Senior Contributor

Re: Did you miss don's post?

They do live much as true communism is envisoned just as the bible tells them to.

 

It is a mistake to assume that communism is all bad.

Lots of societies used communism to survive for a long time.

 

The recent examples of communism the world has seen have not all been so great for personal freedom but that is not to say that true communism is 'bad'.

 

The question of course is can true communism exist in our modern society especially with the forces of capitalism tugging at its base values.

That is why so many 'christian' groups have ignored their bibles commands to live a communistic type life style except the Amish and a few other groups.

Senior Contributor

Re: Congratulations to the liberals


@kraft-t wrote:

Yeah your right sammy. Those dumb canadians, Brits, frenchies and krauts are all living in a facist state. And that is not even including the scandanavians. All those oppressed people from our next door neighbors to all of western europe. All in a communist socialist fascist state. There simply is no hope for them if they aren't completely bridled by the capitalists.

 

BY Gawd i don't want no socialist healthcare. I want corporate america to rip me off.  Whats good for general motors and Humana is good for america!


Yes Don.

I want what you have.

Am getting tired of having to decide which doctor to go too.

 

Would be so much easier with no decision like you, where the insurance company told me which doctor they will deal with so that is where I have to go.

Senior Contributor

Re: Congratulations to the liberals

Ummm...under Obamacare, do the corporations not get to decide what to charge you, and the government more or less makes up the difference, if you can't afford what they are charging?

How does Obamacare protect us from those 'greedy corporations'? 

Senior Contributor

Re: Did you miss don's post?


@schnurrbart wrote:
I'm saying that congress HAS to buy insurance through the ACA just like everyone else. The people working for Mickie Ds get insurance from their employer because MD has more than 50 employees. Less than .05% of those companies with over 50 employees do not already provide healthcare for their full time employees.

Yes, they do, but why does McD's get to be exempted from having to buy ACA compliant insurance, when others do not?

Hint - follow the money trail.

Senior Contributor

Re: Did you miss don's post?

Dairy mom, I do not belive the ACA is akin to seat belt laws.


For one thing, there is no Federal law of any kind, on seat belts.   That is up to individual States.   Until recently, I would not have belived that the Federal government had the authority to force one to buy insurance unconditionally (take auto insurance, it is not unconditional, only if you want to drive on public roads).  
However, the Supreme Court found it Constitutional, so agree or disagree, it is the law.

As to the Amish, they are not Communists, they are Christians.   They do not have a system that forces one to give to another in need, or face fines.   Instead, their religious beliefs compel them to help others, voluntarily.

There IS a difference between charity, and forced charity.   Even if the end result is much the same, the process is different.