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BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Constitutional convention?

There`s ramblings about a "constitution convention"  by the GOP, they ought to forget about that dangerous plan.  Were it to occur they may very well get stabbed with their own knife.  About 30 years ago politicians wanted to open up the Constitution, but cooler heads prevailed, now with the "Roe win" they figure everyone`s on a sugar high and they`ll just sneak it through now.  However, once that becomes precedent, liberals could do nasty things, such as totally take the 2nd Amendment out.  This is why I am suspect of any Republican or "conservative" organization advocating for it.  Beeeecareful

https://www.businessinsider.com/constitutional-convention-conservatives-republicans-constitution-sup...   

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As former Republican senator Rick Santorum addressed Republican lawmakers gathered in San Diego at the American Legislative Exchange Council policy summit, he detailed a plan to fundamentally remake the United States. 

It would become a conservative nation. 

And the transformation, Santorum said, culminates with an unprecedented event: a first-of-its-kind convention to rewrite the Constitution.

"You take this grenade and you pull the pin, you've got a live piece of ammo in your hands," Santorum, a two-time GOP presidential candidate and former CNN commentator, explained in audio of his remarks obtained by the left-leaning watchdog group the Center for Media and Democracy and shared with Insider. "34 states — if every Republican legislator votes for this, we have a constitutional convention." 

The December 2021 ALEC meeting represents a flashpoint in a movement spearheaded by powerful conservative interests, some of whom are tied to Trumpworld and share many of Trump's goals, to alter the nation's bedrock legal text since 1788. It's an effort that has largely taken place out of public view. 

But interviews with a dozen people involved in the constitutional convention movement, along with documents and audio recordings reviewed by Insider, reveal a sprawling, well-funded — at least partly by cryptocurrency — and impassioned campaign taking root across multiple states.

Notably fueling them: success.  

 

 

This isn't an exercise, either. State lawmakers are invited to huddle in Denver starting on Sunday to learn more about the inner workings of a possible constitutional convention at Academy of States 3.0, the third installment of a boot camp preparing state lawmakers "in anticipation of an imminent Article V Convention." 

Rob Natelson, a constitutional scholar and senior fellow at the Independence Institute who closely studies Article V of the Constitution, predicted to Insider there's a 50% chance that the United States will witness a constitutional convention in the next five years. Whether it happens, he said, is highly dependent on Republicans' success winning state legislatures during the 2022 midterm elections. 

But not everyone in the conservative constitutional convention movement believes such a gathering is so imminent. It will likely take years more work to reach their goal, if they ever do. At minimum, Republicans will need to flip several Democratic-controlled state legislatures and convince remaining GOP holdouts of the necessity for a convention. 

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sam1wiseone
Senior Contributor

Re: Constitutional convention?

A country as divided as this will not be forming a new union. 

BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: Constitutional convention?

No Sam, it`s literally becoming the "lamb asking 2 wolves.  What`s for dinner?" .  34 states would have to be on board to open up the Constitution and that would mean purple & even blue states, which would be asking a criminal to hold your loaded shotgun, trusting that he won`t shoot you with it.   

Yes, Conservatives are on a roll, we`ll take back the House & Senate and probably the White House in `24.  However, they`ll do something stupid and liberals will win it back in `26 and `28 .... then you`ll hear liberals say "oh yeah, about that constitutional convention that you rightwingers did?  We got a few ideas of our own now" . 

The Founders protected us, they couldn`t foresee everything, but as it is, it`s pretty good protections.

sam1wiseone
Senior Contributor

Re: Constitutional convention?

I think the permanent government needs to be gutted, unless R's do that nothing will change.  They laugh at the constitution we have.

Re: Constitutional convention?

A sustainable 65-35 will do. Thinking 1964.

 

BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: Constitutional convention?

Let me go out on a limb, Bruce,  you are for a constitution convention?  🙂