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Cruz...will he survive the birthers?

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Re: Cruz...will he survive the birthers?

I think so, he answered it pretty well in the debate.  Trump can walk back what he said if one day he wants to endorse him.  Question is will the Democrats go after a president Cruz with frivilous lawsuits to deflect from all his promised repealing?

 

As far as scandals, Ted`s loan and wife working at Goldman Sachs has more meat on it.  Trump is doing him a favor with the birther stuff.

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Re: Cruz...will he survive the birthers?

You know what they say about paybacks, right?  If his mother is an American citizen, then he is illegible.  However, I would like to know how her name is on a voting record in Canada unless she is a Canadian citizen.

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Re: Cruz...will he survive the birthers?

I'm thinking not. The telling statistic is a poll I saw that indicated that previous supporters deserted him at an high rate when told that he was born in Canada.  Apparently that info hadn't been widely disseminated among the high info crowd.

 

I'm not a legal scholar (lol) but have always assumed that natural born citizen was intended to mean citizen from birth, not a question of where one was born. so it doesn't bother me.

 

But this is really beyond delicious, as out here in Hooterville a precondition for membership in the Tribe is the belief that Obama was born in Kenya.

 

And you gotta give the devil his due. That had been laying out therre from the start but Trump waited to play it until Cruz began to present a threat.

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Re: Cruz...will he survive the birthers?

I support Donald Trump, his mom was born in Scotland.  But as you show, if Ted Cruz got in there would be unprovoked "paybacks" in the form of frivolous lawsuits.  This is why people need to weigh this at the primary level so we can nominate someone with the least frivolous lawsuit fodder.

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Re: Cruz...will he survive the birthers?

It's going to hit the courts.  Problem with that is the first challenge will more or less decide it and if that is frivolous or leaky it's still settled.  

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Re: Cruz...will he survive the birthers?


@schnurrbart wrote:

You know what they say about paybacks, right?  If his mother is an American citizen, then he is illegible.  However, I would like to know how her name is on a voting record in Canada unless she is a Canadian citizen.


Do not know any details about her name being on a voters list but if it was she should be a citizen of Canada.

That said lots of people are citizens of both the US and Canada since it is legal to be a dual citizen in Canada. Acquiring your citizneship here does not require you to renounce your citizenship in anothe country or acquiring a citizenship of another country does not neaget your Candian citizenship which you might already hold.

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Simple Solution....take over Canada

95% of the Canadians already live within 100 miles of the border, right? They want to be Americans...badly it seems. Maybe we failed in 1776 and 1812, but maybe 2016 is the right time.

 

Probably would have a better result than trying to make Iraqis into Americans.

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Re: Cruz...will he survive the birthers?

One thing it has done, is exonerated Obama, and made fools of the conservative "birthers"!

 

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Re: Cruz...will he survive the birthers?

That is basically the way it is here.  You don't have to reject the other country's citizenship to be a US citizen.  Curiously, Obama had dual citizenship until he turned 18 or 21 don't remember which now.  Indonesia requires you to declare for Indonesian citizenship when you hit that age.  If you do nothing, which is what Obama did, then the Indonesian citizenship is dropped and you are no longer a citizen of that Indonesia.