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Veteran Advisor

Re: Darn, thought our socialist president and his minions could pay off the debt

That's right.  They can vote up or down.  Don't know how committees you have served on but I promise you the less number there is, the easier it is to come to an agreement.  NO BS, just come up with the best deal, no hidden amendments, no filabusters, just listen to it and decide.  Besides it is only on the spending cuts, nothing else.  If your congressman wants to build a state hog farm in Iowa, he can still introduce that legislation.

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Re: Darn, thought our socialist president and his minions could pay off the debt

Reducing the size of government has not worked anywhere else. why would it work there.  You will find there are two main reasons for your problems.  1.  You have to stop spending money on your military prowess and 2 wars.  Those wars are costing 2 billion per week. Then remove all the military bases around the world  and that will save another 2 billion per week.  2. Instead of promoting how to avoid taxes, etc start paying them.  The likes of Buffett will never make a dent in the bill but as usual if all the average joe punters kick the tin and increase their payments by about 20 per cent, the bill will come down.  There is no other group in the US who have the capacity to pay that bill and that includes you and the others.

 

 

To waffle on around the perimeter of the problem will not solve anything.  Everyone in your country owes it to the country.  The costs of your military egos is your main problem and if you believe the freedom and liberty mandate you bellow about, paying for with increased taxes should not be a problem.  Think about it.  

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Re: Darn, thought our socialist president and his minions could pay off the debt


@schnurrbart wrote:

So your ONE solution is to cut spending?  That'll do it?  And, I suppose you want most of that spending cut to be SS, Medicare and all and any other "entitlements" the tea party says cut, right?


It's the only solution. Cut everything.

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Re: Darn, thought our socialist president and his minions could pay off the debt


@gough whitlam wrote:

Reducing the size of government has not worked anywhere else. why would it work there.  You will find there are two main reasons for your problems.  1.  You have to stop spending money on your military prowess and 2 wars.  Those wars are costing 2 billion per week. Then remove all the military bases around the world  and that will save another 2 billion per week.  2. Instead of promoting how to avoid taxes, etc start paying them.  The likes of Buffett will never make a dent in the bill but as usual if all the average joe punters kick the tin and increase their payments by about 20 per cent, the bill will come down.  There is no other group in the US who have the capacity to pay that bill and that includes you and the others.

 

 

To waffle on around the perimeter of the problem will not solve anything.  Everyone in your country owes it to the country.  The costs of your military egos is your main problem and if you believe the freedom and liberty mandate you bellow about, paying for with increased taxes should not be a problem.  Think about it.  


Well said Gough.

Those who want to 'cut everything', equally I assume, should do a study of where the increases in spending occurred over the last few years and then cut according to those increases.

I do not have the figures but think they will show the military cost has risen considerably at the expense of many things that could be doing some good.

 

This military thing is kind of self supporting.

Build a big military and you have to do something with it like go to war.

When you go to war you create enemies so you need a g=bigger military to 'protect' yourself and so............... around it goes.

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Re: Darn, thought our socialist president and his minions could pay off the debt

How much do you want to cut?  10%, 20%?  This is across the board right?  Let's see-10% on spending would be about 350 billion and 20% would be about 700 billion.  If those cuts just balanced the budget and produced zero surplus all that would do is stop the principal from growing.  And you have to remember that a pretty good chunk--several hundred billion--goes to pay the interest on the debt so you would have to cut the 10 or 20% off that also OR put in new revenue also. 70% of the polled American public said that they wanted spending cuts PLUS new revenue and yet, your party tells us differently.  I'm sure, in your mind, it is no problem to cut 60-70% off the "entitlements" since most of that goes to people who don't produce anything now so who cares, right??

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Re: Darn, thought our socialist president and his minions could pay off the debt

Some departments should be eliminated completely such as energy and education. Some drastically reduced such as the EPA and homeland security. All foreign aid stopped. No more for the UN or IMF. All farm programs ended. Social security and Medicare need to be reformed on a gradual basis for long term solvency. We also need to quit cramming tax dollars down rat holes.

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Re: Darn, thought our socialist president and his minions could pay off the debt

I would be in favor of some tax increases, mainly on the rich.  However there is no doubt we need to cut government spending and everything should be on the table.  I don't favor an across the board cuts that are the same for all as Culver did here in Iowa.  I think every program should be examined to determine how much to cut and if some programs should be spared from cuts while other programs may want to be eliminated all together or combined with other existing programs.

 

The military should also be targeted for for major cuts.   When one considers that the U.S. Air Force is the world's largest Air Force followed by the U.S. Navy as the second largest then I think it should be safe to make some major cuts in our military.   I think it is time to close many of our oversea bases and let other countries take more of a leadership role in playing the cop on the beat for the rest of the world.

 

The big problem as already mentioned is how we can compete for manufacturing jobs in a global economy when our wages are so much higher then many other countries.   That will be a tough one to solve. 

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Re: Darn, thought our socialist president and his minions could pay off the debt


@r3020 wrote:

Some departments should be eliminated completely such as energy and education. Some drastically reduced such as the EPA and homeland security. All foreign aid stopped. No more for the UN or IMF. All farm programs ended. Social security and Medicare need to be reformed on a gradual basis for long term solvency. We also need to quit cramming tax dollars down rat holes.


So you would stop helping countries like Haiti.

Look at the suffering that happened there and how much worse it would have been with no aid from the US.

Would that have really been beneficial to the future of your country?

 

I would suggest you cut the 'Foreign Aid' tha is given to Israel and Egypt. I think they are a couple of the biggest aid recipients from your country and I think a lot of it is in the form of armaments to help keep the world peacefullSmiley Surprised

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Re: Darn, thought our socialist president and his minions could pay off the debt

I never thought of that. Taking all of my money would not balance the budget. So the solution is not to tax me at all or tax me only 15% like warren's capital gains.

 

Some times you buffoons come up with the strangest logic.

 

Warren Buffet paid 7 million in income taxes last year on billions of income. Kind of make me feel sorry for him. Don't you?

 

 

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Re: Darn, thought our socialist president and his minions could pay off the debt

We have been helping countries like Haiti for years. Time for the oil rich middle east or countries like Canada to pick up the slack.