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Does anyone else

think its pretty funny how the sides went switcho changeo on the whole ground zero mosque - koran burning crapola. Are you being manipulated?
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Veteran Advisor

Re: I Guess That It Depends on Who's Ox is Being Gored


@Samnospam wrote:
think its pretty funny how the sides went switcho changeo on the whole ground zero mosque - koran burning crapola. Are you being manipulated?

I actually think that the obama administration is secretly enjoying this, as it will make it easier for them to declare martial law and a suspension of Constitutional Rights if the muslims predictably attack those people for burning the Q'uran.

Yes, the switcho-changeo is because the Left in this country, will ALWAYS stick up for the folks who attacked us, and continue to seek ways to do again.

Advisor

Re: I Guess That It Depends on Who's Ox is Being Gored

Guard your rights, allow others theirs, have a thick skin. 

Veteran Advisor

Re: I Guess That It Depends on Who's Ox is Being Gored

Listen Dipsh*t, don't you ever say  that I have stuck up for the enemies of this country.  Declare martial law!  What a bunch of hogwash.  You have slipped off that dream train you have been riding.  You throw this crap out and NEVER want to back it up.  You are living in a different world than the rest of us.  Wake up!

Senior Contributor

Re: I Guess That It Depends on Who's Ox is Being Gored

milly never learned to take orders from a superior. He thinks only the conservs carry guns. His education awaits

Senior Advisor

Re: I Guess That It Depends on Who's Ox is Being Gored

We already are not allowed to defend ourselves, what makes you think martial law is out of the question?

 

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UNIONDALE, N.Y. (CBS 2) — He was arrested for protecting his property and family.

But it’s how the Long Island man did it that police say crossed the line.

 

He got an AK-47 assault rifle, pulled the trigger and he ended up in jail, reports CBS 2’s Pablo Guzman.

 

George Grier said he had to use his rifle on Sunday night to stop what he thought was going to be an invasion of his Uniondale home by a gang he thought might have been the vicious “MS-13.” He said the whole deal happened as he was about to drive his cousin home.

 

“I went around and went into the house, ran upstairs and told my wife to call the police. I get the gun and I go outside and I come into the doorway and now, by this time, they are in the driveway, back here near the house. I tell them, you know, ‘Can you please leave?’ Grier said.

 

Grier said the five men dared him to use the gun; and that their shouts brought another larger group of gang members in front of his house.

 

“He starts threatening my family, my life. ‘Oh you’re dead. I’m gonna kill your family and your babies. You’re dead.’ So when he says that, 20 others guys come rushing around the corner. And so I fired four warning shots into the grass,” Grier said.

Grier was later arrested. John Lewis is Grier’s attorney.

 

“What he’s initially charged with – A D felony reckless endangerment — requires a depraved indifference to human life, creating a risk that someone’s going to die. Shooting into a lawn doesn’t create a risk of anybody dying,” Lewis said.

 

Grier said he knew Nassau County Police employ the hi-tech “ShotSpotter” technology in his area and that the shooting would bring police in minutes. Cops told Guzman he was very cooperative.

 

Grier also said he was afraid the gang outside his house was the dreaded MS-13. And Nassau County Police Lt. Andrew Mulraine, head of the gang unit, said MS-13 has 2,000 members in the county.

 

“They’re probably the most organized. They almost have a military hierarchy within the gang, so they are the most organized gang we encounter on a daily basis,” Mulraine said.

 

You may think a person has the right to defend their home. But the law says you can only use physical force to deter physical force. Grier said he never saw anyone pull out a gun, so a court would have to decide on firing the gun.

 

Police determined Grier had the gun legally. He has no criminal record. And so he was not charged for the weapon.

That ShotSpotter technology pinpoints where a gun has been fired within 35 feet. Police said it also detected two other shootings in nearby Roosevelt that night.

 

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2010/09/07/long-island-man-arrested-for-defending-home-with-ak-47/

Veteran Advisor

Re: I Guess That It Depends on Who's Ox is Being Gored

First of all, what you describe is under state law.  Don't know what NY law is but if someone is OUTSIDE your house regardless of if he threatened you or not, you can't shoot him THERE unless you are in Arizona and he pulled a weapon.  You can defend yourself and property.  But there are lines that can't be crossed.  If someone had pulled a weapon then he would have been justified.  Maybe you should work on getting the law changed.  That way, millie can go around shooting everyone he doesn't like or that says something he doesn't like.  Hope he had an automatic rifle permit or he is in bigger trouble.

Veteran Advisor

Re: I Guess That It Depends on Who's Ox is Being Gored

Amen to that.  However, SHHHHH.  Don't tell him that millions of gun carrying people are liberals and they know how to use them.

Senior Contributor

Re: I Guess That It Depends on Who's Ox is Being Gored

Home defense with an AK-47? Why not a 50 cal machine gun with a couple of howitzers and missle launchers and a dozen hand grenades?

How extreme do you want? Who cares about ricocheting bullets and collateral damage to neighbors.

 

 I hope they throw the book at the guy.