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Senior Contributor

Dominos

Just tipping one domino can have quite an impact on things that do not seem to be related.

Your dear tipped one domino and killed a leader from Iran and the results were.

1) Iran had replaced him within 24 hours.

2) US troops in Iraq are confined to their bases

3) Nato forces that were working to help the Iraqis are confined to their bases with some being removed from Iraq

4) US forces asked to leave Iraq

5) Iranian influence in Iraq increased

6) Iranian missiles hit US bases and US shown to be unwilling to retaliate (loss of 'face')  

7) Ukrainian plane shot down killing many innocent people including many well educated, elite citizens of Canada.

 

There are far reaching repercussions to every 'domino ' you tip

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Re: Dominos

Just think of how many lives would have been saved if we had killed this terrorist years ago. 

Your “friends”, the communists and the ji’hadists are what brings evil to the world. 

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Senior Advisor

Re: Dominosformidable

Does no service to our cause to call the leader of asymmetrical insurgency against a vastly greater force a terrorist, any more that it would to describe American Revolutionaries shooting at British formations from behind trees by that term.

An enemy, for sure, and a formidable one- deeply hated by our Military and Deep State. Probably contributed more to the US defeat in Iraq than any other individual other than Rumsfeld, Cheney, maybe Gens. Franks or Sanchez.

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Re: Dominosformidable

Sy Hersh, I guess, for reporting on Abu Ghraib.

Although it would have been a good idea to preempt the insurgency rather than kicking down doors, dragging families off to prisons indiscriminately and randomly torturing and degrading prisoners.

That multiplied the insurgency 10 fold but once it became public the whole game was lost. That was approximately the point where Iran started to gain influence- after the Sunni insurgency has already taken hold.

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Re: Dominos

Just think how many lives could have been saved if the US had not invaded all these countries.

https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/costs/human/civilians

 

Key Findings

 

  • At least 244,000 Afghan, Iraqi, and Pakistani civilians have died violent deaths as a direct result of the wars.

  • War deaths from malnutrition, and a damaged health system and environment likely far outnumber deaths from combat.

 

Recommendations 

 

  • The US government should include civilian deaths and injuries in public reporting of war deaths, including a tally of children killed.

 

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Senior Advisor

Re: Dominos

And if the Canadian general hadn't taken out gaddifi's grand kids.

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Senior Advisor

Re: Dominos

The previous arrangement of cordoning Saddam's Iraq was criticized for inhumane outcomes- some sizable estimates of deaths there too- although those were mostly due to the regime using humanitarian aid as an internal weapon.

But it was cheap and effective as far as the ongoing stability of the region went.

But somebody decided it was intolerable and we had to fix things for good.

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Re: Dominos

Been a while. I left out maybe Numero Uno- Paul Bremer.

Disbanding the professional Baathist core of the Iraqi Army was an epic and very early screw up.

They knew where the munitions were buried and how to use them.

I recently got dressed down severely by a guy for making those points- he said I was disrespecting Our Troops. As is usually the case, Our Troops didn't lose it- our civilian and military leadership did.

 

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Senior Advisor

Re: Dominos

Trump didn't invade any countries. Trump didn't increase troop levels in iraq. Trump has been drawing down troop levels in foreign countries. Yet the world's leading terrorist continued to terrorize.

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Re: Dominos

You need to double check your math 3020.

Don't miss the ones that have been moved off the official count.

By adding in the number that were removed 'to protect the forces' there were almost exactly the same number there as there were when Obama stepped down.

Then we have to add in the 5,000 that were sent over in the last week or so and unless you use magic in your additions you will find the number has actually increased.

that is what happens when you kill another countries leaders