End of the 0bama illusion

[BA Deere]

http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/05/the_end_of_the_obama_illusion.html 

Yes, that is true...but when there`s a corrupt system in place where free drinks are bought for the bar, the person buying the drinks will always be popular.  A scene from a Dillinger type movie comes to mind where after the banker is pistol whipped, cash is thrown to the bank patrons as the gangsters make their getaway.  The gangster was immensely popular of course by giving out stolen money, the patrons receiving the cash didn`t care or made the cash all the sweeter having come the "underserving" bank depositors.  The big picture that was missed was the money thrown in the air by the gangsters was mere peanuts compared to what they were getting away with.

[bruce MN]

The peanuts thing.  Woke up early and turned on the TV.  Checked out MSNBC, which I haven't had on in weeks,  to see how the "liberal press" was covering all of this and found Chuck Todd with a woody that almost seemed to be lifting the desk in front of him.  The media is hungry for scandal, always has been.  Sells ads, papers, draws viewers etc. and more than anything being the go to reporter on something big creates intense competition.  Chuck was certain that this is all so big that it will forever taint the system and cause theway the public views politics and corruption in government forever.

Guess what Chuck...the public already views it as tainted. 

My quess is that what the public is seeing a few months into Benghazi and a couple of weeks into IRS and AP is a gaggle of desperate privleedged white men who are in Congress thanks to their connections to the runaway world of crony capitalism and (favored) groups that represent minority opinion.  You can slice that any way you want party or philosophy wise, but the Issa's and McConnell's and Inhofe's with their obvious disdain for one man are going to be what gets painted in their minds.

Obama just the latest in a string of Chief Executives of a cynical, rapidly discreditable system that is creating conscious avoidance of dealing with infrastructure, education , energy,, finacnial regulation etc. etc. and, rather, concentrated on neoliberal policies on trade, foreign affairs and domestic finance. He's especially handicapped by the (naively arrived at....no quetion) notion that much of the public held that he might be different.   He's really just running into "business as usual" and ain't too good at administration...an introvert stuck in a world where extroverts, copy cats, technocrats and holders of information rule the day.  It was a nice try, but doomed.  As we are seeing now.

But suffering more than he is the power structure and leadership fo the 21st century Republican Party.  No answers,.  no plans.  no vision.  Just "Get the fraud out of there and let us run things again.  Let us start getting the largesse and peks back to teh people who own us."  I don't thik it will come to the point where a sense of general Obama remorse sets in.   He's not setting himself up as a victinm but bet your a$$ that he will be seen as one in the end.  I don't buuy that, BT, but that's how thhis is very likely going to play out. 

Odds are better right now with all of this in play for the Democrats  to regain the House than they have been for some time.  I didn't thnk that could happen after the census and the re-rigging of the Districts.  And I don't necessarilly think that happening is a good thing.  The GOP cleaning up it's slate of candidates and getting some good old fashioned Republicans on some tickets would be better.  But the way those people have left the GOP ship we're likely to get even more little Bachmans and Kings on the ballots around the couhntry.

The writing coming out of the mainstream right has been filed with the ravings of people who are certain that they smell blood. But then what ever else wouldhthey have to write about with Paul Ryan as their policy guru AND messiah? As for them, and for Chuck Todd and all of the other Walter Cronkite and David Brinkley wannabees who are making a point of being "fair",  we can't remind ourselves often enough that this is all really just D.C. inside baseball and that the mass in the center is immune to it.  It's nothing new.  It's what people expect.   Just the names and faces change now and then.

And  the only real populist energy that is out there is on the very extreme edges of the right.  And that takes us nowhere except for the creation of more spectacular news and more carnage. 

[johnaa]

   It's easier to understand if you recall who was attempting to elect Oromney(how many standing ovations?), I see it as contest over who will control US Foreign Policy and misuse the US military.

[BA Deere]

I just find these scandals interesting, the media appears to be finally latching on a little, too late now though Obama is in his 2nd term, he can be impeached though. What should concern us is what will take the place of our republic and i do see that as a possi lity, maybe a military coup for better or worse? No questio  America is more divided than during the civil war.

[Snooky1953]

And just what would be the grounds for impeachment?  Are you among the fools here that think the president micro-manages all that is govt?

[hardnox604008]

I think the AP deal is the one that deserves the most attention but I'm thinking that it will receive the least because a large portion of the GOP also has strongly authoritarian impulses. I'd even go so far as to say that maybe the guys with wigs had a reason for putting the first amendment ahead of the sacred second one.

As to the IRS thing, if there was a sudden proliferation of every Tom, **bleep** and Harry filing for political tax exempt status I would think  it not unreasonable for an administrator to take a look.

As to Benghazi, yes Virginia, they probably were running a CIA op out of that consulate, probably to try to grab off heavy weaponry that was floating around and possibly to ship some of it to Syria.

Like the AP thing which is about classified information on a mostly secret and undeclared war in Yemen, we have ourselves in a whole lot of messes which presumably would be fixed forthright if John McCain and Lindsey Graham were in charge.

[bruce MN]

By "impeached" do you mean a motion for impeachment and subsequent  proceedings if accepted , or as most seem to mean "Impeached", meaning successfully removed from office?

On which of the 3 major scandals? The bunggling and understaffed short cutting IRS beaurocrats?  Benghazi of whihc all documents and communications were shown to congress weeks ago and have now been opened up to the press and public?  Or the phone companies giving records to the DOJ on a terror/Patriot Act case?

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2143562,00.html

The huge mass in the middle is frustrated and can sense that there is something wrong with what has happened to an America that seemed to improve for nearly everybody in the 3 decades coming out of WW2.  Wondering why we have stopped or gone backwards in so many ways, with only a very small %  having advanced.  They aren't interested in civil disorder. Aren't armed for it, in spite of all of the gun talk and wouldn't be of a mind for it, guns or not..  The civil war was over property rights more than anything.  That''s not something that many Americans are personally concerned with right now.  The Supreme Court sealed the deal on that anyway and subsequently damned to near everybody understands, either consciously or instinctively, that that part of "the dream" is out the window for the vast , vast majority of the little people.

The ready for Civil War "poised" are a dangerous minority with vast delusions of granduer and purpose.  If the tinder under that  segment is sparked in anything  even slightly more organized than the remote cases we've been seeing for years you'll actually get an opportunity to see government working effectively for at least once in your lifetime.

[bruce MN]

Nox says:

As to the IRS thing, if there was a sudden proliferation of every Tom, **bleep** and Harry filing for political tax exempt status I would think  it not unreasonable for an administrator to take a look.

Just saw somewhere some one say that the agency or those agents in Cincinatti may very well have been "O'Keefed". It is a fact that those groups did not indeed  need pre-apporval of tax-exempt status, but that scores of them did apply simultanously anyway.  You might be on to something.

[hardnox604008]

My view is similar to John Adams' (one of those wig guys) in regards to Shay's Rebellion.

If "The New Black Panthers" want to enter into armed revolt then it should be met with overwhelming force in a fashion that is consistent with settled constitutional law. Same goes for the Hooterville Cadet Corps.

Shay's Rebellion occurred under the Articles of Confederation and thus its suppression was carried on by the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. The Whiskey Rebellion was a challenge to the new Constitution and wig guy Washington moved to suppress it violently.

[BA Deere]

 Benghazi/Libya/Gadafi are all things that make them loose eye contact, sweat profusly, stammer and take the last rufuge of the guilty becoming angry. "Benghazigate" is where i'd focus my shelling, IRSgate this administration will talk hours on end, even making heads roll. I'd give em credit for bluffing if i thought there was half of a brain in the bunch. If you libs knew whats best for Obama, youd follow his lead and denounce "the terrible IRS" IRSgate must be something that kinda registers with the low information voters.