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rsbs
Veteran Advisor

End the Abortion debate

Republicans think it is a sin, that it is murder. Democrats either have to say that they think it is just fine, or get kicked out of their party.

Here is a modest proposal....Let's have government paid for sterilization of all liberals so that they never have to worry about abortion again. 

This would solve most of the problems in the USA, although it might take a generation or two. If we go with castration of the liberal males, though, it would really help solve the "me too" crisis, too. 

Liberals love government solutions, here is one that we all can agree on.

14 Replies
jennys_mn
Veteran Advisor

Re: End the Abortion debate

You think good Republican women don’t have abortions?   Oh K....

Jen

rsbs
Veteran Advisor

Re: End the Abortion debate

Jeb, don't you have some puppies to drown?

sdholloway56
Senior Advisor

Re: End the Abortion debate

I'd assume that Democrat women would be somewhat more likely to take care of their contraception business.

The largest cohort of women who get abortions probably lean toward unaffiliated and disengaged from politics. They're women who are in precarious economic/relationship situations who already have children and don't want to take bread out of their mouths.

Access to contraception and a better social safety net will do more to reduce abortions than criminalization will.

henrikstudson
Senior Contributor

Re: End the Abortion debate

Are you getting the vaccine?

sdholloway56
Senior Advisor

Re: End the Abortion debate

Contraception has the highest ROI of anything government can spend money on and the cost is negligible in the scheme of things.

The trick is to a;so create policies that encourage people who want chidren to have them. 

I suppose there's a little very soft eugenics in there so I'm awaiting the lambasting from people who otherwise want The Other to be starved, shot, incarcertated. 

More children from families that want them and think they can swing the deal and fewer from those who can't will contribute to a much healthier society.

BTW, our sick society is more than happy to have a pipeline of useless eaters to feed into the for profit prison system, keep cops employed etc.

sdholloway56
Senior Advisor

Re: End the Abortion debate

We had a lovely situation where a commissioner of a nearby county went into a rant- on a totally unrelated topic- about how, "yeah, but the XXXXXXs down in Indy all murder their babies". Might not have gotten so much attnetion if it hadn't been a Zoom meeting with everything recorded.

But I assume that, yeah, there are more women of color with children and in precarious economic/relationship circumstances, so yes, there are more of "them" on a percentage basis,  if not absolute terms.

But I'm certain that fellow is one of those whomearacists?

rickgthf
Senior Advisor

Re: This seems like a good opportunity to bring up .....

  Donahue-Levitt hypothesis where access to legal abortion results in a very substantial reduction in crime.  They've been arguing this back and forth for thirty years but the last study by Donahue & Levitt in 2019 again confirmed about a 45% reduction in crime with access to safe legal abortion.  In fact their data & analysis gets stronger with time.

 So whatever your opinion about abortion, it is an unfortunate reality that when some women are forced to bear unwanted pregnancies there will inevitably be some unwanted and uncared for children.  And some percentage of those children will go on to commit violent crimes. Many more will live lives of poverty & misery.  You only have to look at the statistics on wealth distribution to understand why.

Until the radical anti-abortionists fully commit to guaranteeing the support, both economic & emotional necessary to provide these unwanted children what they need to be healthy productive citizens, they're just adding to the misery in the world.

 And you might think that these radical anti-abortionists would realize that one way to reduce the need for and harm from unwanted pregnancies would be to provide access to readily available free contraception. But "Oh No", quite the contrary,  instead, they want it to be as difficult or impossible as possible.  By all appearances, they seem to be intent on making as much misery and suffering in the world as humanly possible, and in the name of "Heaven", too.

rsbs
Veteran Advisor

Re: This seems like a good opportunity to bring up .....

if all the liberals were euthanized, crime would go down by more than 50 percent according to that logic.

sam1wiseone
Senior Contributor

Re: This seems like a good opportunity to bring up .....

Kinda curious huh, Dr red.

Just carefully define what constitutes a crime.  Killing a person by most is a pretty serious crime.