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Canuck_2
Senior Contributor

Re: "Doesn't control the spread"? That's just not true.

Don't confuse them with numbers and facts Rick, it makes their beliefs look silly.

sam1wiseone
Senior Contributor

Re: "Doesn't control the spread"? That's just not true.

Posted before, play the blind monkey again.   Science

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10654-021-00808-7

rickgthf
Senior Advisor

Re: Oh Christ, the Springer Article.

The fatal flaw in their analysis is they fail to take into account the fact that the surge (or surges) are at different points, at different times, in different locations.   When Missouri was experiencing the worst of its surge Florida was just getting started. The surge in West Virginia didn't really get started until Florida was well along.  They used a seven-day window on either side of a single time point for their analysis that simply doesn't into account the temporal separation or the dynamic nature of the surges.

   Take for instance the Intermountain Western States, at the time of this analysis despite low levels of vaccination, they weren't experiencing the surge they are today. 

r3020
Senior Advisor

Re: Oh Christ, the Springer Article.

Florida now has the lowest infection rate of the lower 48. Thank you governor DeSantis. This without the tyranny. My body. My choice.

sam1wiseone
Senior Contributor

Re: Oh Christ, the Springer Article.

You did the same thing rick.

For every ancedote you make up, their is a real one like Iceland that drives the point that high vac rates equate with high covid rates.

Go find some puppies to torture Rick, better suits your skill set.

sam1wiseone
Senior Contributor

Re: Oh Christ, the Springer Article.

Data from UK.   Fyi negative means it enhances risk.

rickgthf
Senior Advisor

Re: Data from the UK? Citation?

You put up a chart completely out of context and expect anyone to trust your interpretation?

rickgthf
Senior Advisor

Re: I'm still waiting for that citation.

nt

rickgthf
Senior Advisor

Re: Iceland, oh come on, ....

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-iceland-vaccines/fact-check-covid-19-cases-in-iceland-are-...

 Positive cases among the vaccinated were well within the expected range.

Quote: 

According to Director General Knútsdóttir, rates of protection against hospitalization following vaccination in Iceland are comparable with the results of the PHE study.

“According to the Chief Epidemiologist, evidence shows that the vaccines used in Iceland protect about 60 percent of those fully vaccinated against any kind of infection caused by the delta variant of the virus and over 90 percent against serious illnesses,” 

 

aljessen61
Senior Contributor

Re: Iceland, oh come on, ....

Now they want to give a fourth shot. This is starting to stink really bad.