Final straw; Done with Trump

[wehav]

It's funny to see a liberal/leftist/progressive whatever say "basic human liberty."  What you really mean is liberal with other people's freedom and property.  

And:

since the Wong Kim Ark case dealt with someone whose parents were in the United States legally, there is no valid basis under the 14th Amendment for the practice of granting citizenship to U.S.-born children of illegal immigrants:"Even if the logic is that Wong Kim Ark became a citizen by birth with the permission of the United States when it admitted his parents to the country, no such permission has been given to those who enter illegally.

[Packard27]

Rodge,

I think this topic might be a tad bit more complex than you let on.

[Samthehumble]

I think I was wrong, after some reading I think Trump is going the right direction here.   Challenge it to the supreme court to settle it.

[r3020]

As I said. Any speech which disagrees with a progressive can be labeled hate speech and shut down. Do you support the Constitution or not?

[rodgersfarms56]

Only if you make it. Two children are born in the United States. You want to define them by who their parents are. I hate that the culture is changing. I’m for drone attacks on the Caravan. They are taking over our country. Shoot the law breaking parents. Shoot them twice. You know the difference between me and most of the rest of the world? By admitting I’m prejudiced as hell instead of being in denial I am able to be objective about something as liberty and fairness. I suppose if a parent commits a murder and dies with 30 years left on his sentence and has three children each child could serve 10 years. Not denying citizenship to someone equal in every way except who their parents are, both born to the United States is not at all complex. Believe I don’t want them here. But I know I would be dishonest if I rationalized one deserved citizenship and not the other because of what I want the world to be. No one is more whiny than spoiled farmers. We are called customers when we buy inputs AND when we sell our products. And way too many of us actually believe we can possess the earth and believe me know one is more attached to a piece of property than I who have lived on the same farm every day of my 62 years.

[rodgersfarms56]

I never thought I would see the day when someone called me a liberal. I believe conservatism is paying MORE until our bills are paid and putting liberty before ALL else.

[rodgersfarms56]

A liberal wouldn’t want as I do to do everything we can to stop them from being born here instead of the parents homeland.

[WCMO]

Agree, needs to go to supreme court -- test case with illegal alien/immigrant's child being allowed/denied some "right" of citizenship, perhaps most meaningful if being allowed/denied the "right" to vote.

[schnurrbart]

Well any person being in any part of this country is in the jurisdiction of that state and this country. They have to be governed by the laws which govern US citizens. Therefore, you’re gonna hate thisbut, since the parents are under the jurisdiction of our laws, the child born to those parents is, by law, a citizen of the US! Sorry but that is the way it works.

[elcheapo]

I think a somewhat similar case has been

Tried, that I cited earlier.

What has happened to us ?

This used to be a respectable site

I looked forward to look at

Today, I can't stand it.

Everyone must be labeled

Conservative or liberal

One is terrible...the other is wonderful

What ever become of Americans ?

We are a vast melting post of

Different kinds of people.

But not here.

Then avocation to quit fallowing the

Constitution and to kill women and

Children for illeagl entry into this

Country....is insane.

Such acts are criminal

Yes, I am considering contacting

The DOJ about this website.

Would you let your wife, kids or

Grandkids read this forum ?

I will not

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