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bruce MN
Advisor

Re: Another convention rule.

RNC doesn't do it.  It's a convention committee. Look in to how that committee is formed and seated.

Red Steele
Veteran Advisor

Thanks, Nox, for the link

Maybe the doornob will thank you, too and do his own research next time before making a putz

out of himself.

 

Now, whats it gonna take for you and the other blind mice to acknowledge that socialism leads to

stagnation and poverty, and capitalism is the driver that has let even the poor in America have big screen TV's,

cell phones, section 8 housing, so much food that obesity is their number one health concern?

 

Shifty still wants to argue that Cuba and Venezuela, a couple of countries blessed with a great 

abundance of natural resources and climate, are doing it right, irregardless of the results. Does it

take a 2X4, or is it hopeless for your crew?

 

It matters cause if we would follow your lead, and elect the Bernie Sanders types, we would all end

up equally impoverished, except for the leaders.

bruce MN
Advisor

Re: Thanks, Nox, for the link

Are you trying to say that what's in that piece validates what is being discussed here?  Your boy Ted's people aren't going to let that happen.  The magic committee isn't made up of RNC insiders.  The comments made by Spicer put up on the screen what it is that has Trump and Cruz supporters so impassioned..

 

You've very likely never attended a precinct caucus, so why get all smart about the process now?

hardnox
Advisor

Re: Thanks, Nox, for the link

There's never been an advanced democratic society with strong institutions that has gone the route of Cuba or Venezuela. Not one, and those were not just or enlightened societies when they headed down that path- never had been.

 

There is an abundance of natural experiments currently in play as far as the GOP plan to turn the US into a corporate ruled Kansas with a vast adventurist post-democratic military.

 

If the US is to become Venezuela it will have to pass through the RW dictatorship with massive inequality stage first.

 

 

 

 

hardnox
Advisor

Re: Thanks, Nox, for the link

Since Ron Paul was the hands down choice here in 2012 you'd think there's be a bit of resentment revisited with the reminder that Rule 40b was specifically put in place to make sure he didn't ruin Daddy Warbucks Osmond's coronation.

 

But of course that was a cheap throwaway- if Rand proved anything it was the obvious fact that libertarian republican is an oxymoron.

BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: Thanks, Nox, for the link

Well, we are importing significant numbers of those banana republics and those new citizens "have the right to vote" after a few years of that cumulative effect, you can see what happened.  A closet socialist like Obama would`ve never gotten elected..not even a chance in the 4 years prior election, 2008 was the tipping point, the inmates became emboldened enough to storm the guard tower of the nuthouse.  As damaged goods as Hillary is, I don`t know as she won`t be our next president.  When entire states are totally written off to the GOP (example California won`t even give a hearing to a Republican candidate)...we are already a 3rd world country, just not yet put the hammer & sickle on the flag yet.

 

When the GOP establishment is so in on the gig that they actively campaign against Trump "oooo who can we pick to defeat Trump???" ...talk about "friendly fire'.

hardnox
Advisor

Re: Thanks, Nox, for the link

I was thinking of you (and Red, of course) when I wrote that.

 

You're entirely misguided if you think that you're safeguarding your patrimonial estate for future generations by weakening democracy.

BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: Thanks, Nox, for the link

There probably is no safeguarding our estates for future generations... "Gulliver has awakened from his slumber bound by the Lilliputians" .  This is why I`m not all that wild about going out and paying $10,000 for land, a few short years from now, it can all be taxed away to pay for free college for outer Mongolian refugees.   That`s the kind of damned system we have these days, whatever wealth that can be sewn into your garments and maybe a bug out bag to run for the hills or Uruguay is all you may be lucky to really call your own one day. 

 

This "democracy" you speak of is a sheep and 2 wolves voting on what`s for dinner...baaa baaaa baaaa

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dttq5p0xUM 

hardnox
Advisor

Re: Thanks, Nox, for the link

There are a few common pathways to RW radicalism- guns, racism, social issues are the most common but the net lowdown is that few return once they've gone down that path.

 

The good news is that the pendulum has always swung back and forth and a new generation tends to see the folly of their parents a lot more clearly than they ever can.

 

One poll indicated that Trump voters are the most pessimistic about the future (think Archie Bunker), Sanders the most optimistic. By a lot.

 

Being a civil society it takes time for that magic to work, and the periods where it is taking hold tend to be tumultuous.

 

 

BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: Thanks, Nox, for the link

So why do these "happy optimistic" leftwingers crash and protest Trump rallies?  They don`t look too "opitimistic" to me.  If you are a Christian, you should be happy and optimistic because your kingdom isn`t on this earth, but as CS Lewis once said after touring a beautiful mansion and garden `ah these are the things that make it difficult to want to leave this world`. 

 

But to be "king of the world" the Bernie supporters should be happy, he does have a shot at the Democrat nomination, I recall the closest that I had saw to Bernie was Gus Hall back in the day that was basically a joke. ...you`ve come a long way baby!