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r3020
Senior Advisor

Re: GOP sleaze

Clinton vs Trump is the best argument yet for limited government.

Blacksandfarmer
Veteran Advisor

Re: GOP sleaze

NewAgJudge, no I'm not misguided. Ive lived bad foreign policy, then came home to a broken economy and a country without pride. As far as I'm concerned we need to fire nearly all the scumbags in office and start over. 

schnurrbart
Veteran Advisor

Re: GOP sleaze

I don't know when you "came home" but everyone comes home to uncertain times but the economy has improved dramatically since bush 2 left office.  I know all the Obama haters claim it is horrible but all you have to do is look at the facts and you will see.  As for getting rid of people in congress (you didn't say that) it would be a near impossible task as they are the ones who make the rules and they certainly aren't going to make a rule that would eliminate the golden goose!!  Only the other guy's fellow is the bad egg!!

Canuck_2
Senior Contributor

Re: GOP sleaze

illinifarmer; you did not mention the very socialist Farm Program in your country where millionare land owners get government payments every year for what? calling themselves a farmer.

Blacksandfarmer
Veteran Advisor

Re: GOP sleaze

Schnurrbart, sometime after WW2 and now this country really lost itself. It didn't happen overnight or over one presidency. Yes, we do have the ability to fire those in congress and the senate by voting them out of office. Our government officials have forgotten that they work for us. This is why Trump and Sanders have done so well. My problem with Obama has less to do with the economy and more to do with the fact that sometimes I question his loyalty to the U.S. 

r3020
Senior Advisor

Re: GOP sleaze

And there in lies the problem with socialism. A trickle up transfer of wealth to the rich.

schnurrbart
Veteran Advisor

Re: GOP sleaze

Why would you question his loyalty?  

NewAgJudge
Senior Contributor

Because....

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Blacksandfarmer
Veteran Advisor

Re: GOP sleaze

Schnurrbart are you serious? For starters 1) I don't like the Iran nuclear deal. That will just turn into another Iraq. That is if Iran doesn't use its new found wealth (now that sanctions are gone) to attack its neighbors and the U.S first. 2) I don't like the idea that Obama grants thousands of undocumented Syrian refugees a safe haven here in the U.S. There will be a few wolves mixed in with those sheep. 3) Obama seems dead set on closing Gitmo. Let me be clear that while my unit put many enemy combatants to sleep, we also took many prisoners. Only the worst of the worst got sent to Gitmo. 4) President Obama should have worked to be a good role model for black youth. When a city was nearly burned to the ground becuase a young black man robbed a convenience store, assaulted a police officer, and died in the process, President Obama said nothing. In fact he sent 3 white house staff to meet with the young man's parents. During that same month or year, I doubt any of the black men who died in the line of duty as police officers here in the U.S or soldiers in Iraq or Afghanistan got that same treatment. 5) Obama supports liberals gone wild. I won't bother to get into that discussion. I'm pretty outnumbered by the feel-good-hippie liberals of the 1960's on this board.

r3020
Senior Advisor

Re: GOP sleaze

Kudos. Very well stated. And you never even mentioned the ILLEGAL gun running operation to mexico all meant to lead to more gun violence son the president could have good reason to call for more gun control. Or the opening of jail cells and allowing violent ILLEGAL aliens to go free and then given sanctuary in many US cities. Those are the things the created Donald J Trump, not racism.