Get ready for the climate lock down

[r3020]

You are now being trained. Give government the power to take everything away from you or the government will be forced to declare an emergency and take everything away from you.

As COVID-19 spread earlier this year, governments introduced lockdowns in order to prevent a public-health emergency from spinning out of control. In the near future, the world may need to resort to lockdowns again—this time to tackle a climate emergency.

Shifting Arctic ice, raging wildfires in western U.S. states and elsewhere, and methane leaks in the North Sea are all warning signs that we are approaching a tipping point on climate change, when protecting the future of civilization will require dramatic interventions.

Under a “climate lockdown,” governments would limit private-vehicle use, ban consumption of red meat, and impose extreme energy-saving measures, while fossil-fuel companies would have to stop drilling. To avoid such a scenario, we must overhaul our economic structures and do capitalism differently.

Three interconnected crises

COVID-19 is itself a consequence of environmental degradation: one recent study dubbed it “the disease of the Anthropocene.” Moreover, climate change will exacerbate the social and economic problems highlighted by the pandemic. These include governments’ diminishing capacity to address public-health crises, the private sector’s limited ability to withstand sustained economic disruption, and pervasive social inequality.

These shortcomings reflect the distorted values underlying our priorities. For example, we demand the most from “essential workers” (including nurses, supermarket workers, and delivery drivers) while paying them the least. Without fundamental change, climate change will worsen such problems.

The climate crisis is also a public-health crisis. Global warming will cause drinking water to degrade and enable pollution-linked respiratory diseases to thrive. According to some projections, 3.5 billion people globally will live in unbearable heat by 2070.

Addressing this triple crisis requires reorienting corporate governance, finance, policy, and energy systems toward a green economic transformation. To achieve this, three obstacles must be removed: business that is shareholder-driven instead of stakeholder-driven, finance that is used in inadequate and inappropriate ways, and government that is based on outdated economic thinking and faulty assumptions.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/we-need-to-act-boldly-now-if-we-are-to-avoid-economy-wide-lockdown...

[rickgthf]

What do people like you drink for beverages?  Whatever it is, stop, it makes you confused and stupid. Why do you insist on conflating the petroleum industry with the energy industry and the whole economy?  We have transitioned away from one energy source to another before. In fact, we did it less than a hundred years ago.  What makes you think we'll do it all tomorrow?  The USDA has calculated that in the late 1800s half of all the agricultural output of the country went to producing feed and forage for horses used for transportation and work. In 1900, there were no gasoline filling stations in the US, by 1920, there were some 20,000 but my grandfather didn't retire his horses until the early 1950s.  In other words, it took 50 years to fully make the transition to petroleum.  We will transition to electric passenger vehicles and it will be relatively quick and seamless.  It will take longer to transition to electric heavy vehicles and off-road equipment but it'll come.

 You must work for the petroleum industry from the way you carry on, find a new career.

[r3020]

Not enough. Dem scientist tell us red meat adds much more to man made global warming than fossil fuels. And evidently you failed to read the article, we have to change our whole financial system. That has always been the goal of man made global warming science deniers, end capitalism. Install communism. And the US is not the worlds only or largest polluter but it is always the US which much change to save the planet.

[jennys_mn]

Go back to beating up on Trannies using bathrooms Trudy - you had more there, than you have with your latest version of pull string, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

What, didn’t get to kill any Trannies going into bathrooms, so you got bored?   Find yourself a more mindless activity to do - like farming.   You’ll be far better off, than wasting your time here, or protecting those bathrooms.

Jen

[r3020]

What's a Trannie?

[rickgthf]

https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emissions

Agriculture currently accounts for 10% of greenhouse gas emissions, transportation 28%, electricity 27%, industry 22%, residential & commercial 12%.

I imagine that with a little work we can get agriculture well below that 10% so go pound sand someplace else.

[sam1wiseone]

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@rickgthf wrote:

What do people like you drink for beverages?  Whatever it is, stop, it makes you confused and stupid. Why do you insist on conflating the petroleum industry with the energy industry and the whole economy?  We have transitioned away from one energy source to another before. In fact, we did it less than a hundred years ago.  What makes you think we'll do it all tomorrow?  The USDA has calculated that in the late 1800s half of all the agricultural output of the country went to producing feed and forage for horses used for transportation and work. In 1900, there were no gasoline filling stations in the US, by 1920, there were some 20,000 but my grandfather didn't retire his horses until the early 1950s.  In other words, it took 50 years to fully make the transition to petroleum.  We will transition to electric passenger vehicles and it will be relatively quick and seamless.  It will take longer to transition to electric heavy vehicles and off-road equipment but it'll come.

 You must work for the petroleum industry from the way you carry on, find a new career.

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You don't play the slightest attention to the people pushing the climate agenda.  They say we can not have a gradual move away from fossil fuels.  

[sdholloway56]

BTW, fossil fuels are finite, as is the rest of the planet.

We did find out that $100+ oil will squeeze a bit of unconventional stuff out, but it is caught in a trap- there's a race to extract as much of the conventional stuff out as possible and the additional supply pushed prices into a place where hundreds of $Bs was incinerated. We could run through another cycle of that, I suppose. But why?

Fossil fuels are a one time gift from God. A smart world would use the last of them as the feedstock to get to something sustainable.

Gonna have to overcome the objections of the Mayan Timber Owners and Woodsmen Association, though.

BTW, it makes every bit as much sense for the government to pay farmers to reduce emissions, sequester carbon and heal the ecosphere as it does to pay them to grow commodity crops.

[sdholloway56]

This chart should concern you. Who, me worry?

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[sdholloway56]

BTW, the blended EROEI of all petroleum is a lot higher than 3:1 but it is even falling in the old legacy fields is now where they're having to use enhanced extraction to get the last of it out. Some of the new stuff is that bad.

Wind and solar on good sites now >10 and rising. A modern society with high standard of living probably requires that.

Strictly speaking, you'll never run out of oil- you'll just run out of money as the EROEI falls.

Ironically, fossil fuels probably have a better future in a blended mix with a higher EROEI.