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Canuck_2
Senior Contributor

Re: Low Info Voters?


r3020 wrote:

The guy can't be serious. Who is going to decide the districts? Is it just repub districts that are to be changed or does it also include the ones set by dems?


I think he is serious.

And no doubt needs to be serious.

 

With districts like those shown in the link below your country touting democracy becomes a laughing stock.

look at Iraq and the problems they are having getting a democracy working since they did not include minorities in their government and its decision making then look at the country that helped them set up their 'democracy' and the examples from that country.

 

Not sure where I heard of this first, probably on a Canadian news source, but a search found this link and it has more info than I knew before.

Study this and then you will be thankfull that some one and some groups are trying to make your country a true democracy.

 

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/judge-nixes-florida-gop-gerrymander

The Florida GOP’s gerrymandering was among the most severe in the country. Republicans hold 17 of the state’s 27 congressional seats, even though Democrats won nearly half of all votes in the state’s congressional races in 2012. Other Republican-controlled states, including Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Michigan, also were heavily gerrymandered—with the result that the GOP holds a 35-seat advantage in the U.S. House, even though Democrats won over 1 million more votes in congressional races.

BA Deere
Honored Advisor

What happens if the R`s win the senate, Sam?

Smiley Very Happy   The liberals will blow a gasket like when the Republicans won the House in 2010. 

 

Oh God, this is funny!   This is the liberal take the "mourning after" that great November day back in 2010    Smiley Very Happy

 

http://community.agriculture.com/t5/Ag-Forum/Somebody-got-hood-winked-and-it-wasn-t-the-Democrats/m-...

 

Har Har Har       Har Har Har

 

I was talking to my friend Rand Paul the other day and he tells me, it`s important that Joni Ernst wins Iowa...so goes Iowa, so goes the nation in the Republicans retaking the senate.

 

Har Har Har    Har Har Har

r3020
Senior Advisor

Re: Low Info Voters?


@Canuck_2 wrote:

r3020 wrote:

The guy can't be serious. Who is going to decide the districts? Is it just repub districts that are to be changed or does it also include the ones set by dems?


I think he is serious.

And no doubt needs to be serious.

 

With districts like those shown in the link below your country touting democracy becomes a laughing stock.

look at Iraq and the problems they are having getting a democracy working since they did not include minorities in their government and its decision making then look at the country that helped them set up their 'democracy' and the examples from that country.

 

Not sure where I heard of this first, probably on a Canadian news source, but a search found this link and it has more info than I knew before.

Study this and then you will be thankfull that some one and some groups are trying to make your country a true democracy.

 

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/judge-nixes-florida-gop-gerrymander

The Florida GOP’s gerrymandering was among the most severe in the country. Republicans hold 17 of the state’s 27 congressional seats, even though Democrats won nearly half of all votes in the state’s congressional races in 2012. Other Republican-controlled states, including Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Michigan, also were heavily gerrymandered—with the result that the GOP holds a 35-seat advantage in the U.S. House, even though Democrats won over 1 million more votes in congressional races.


Dems don't gerrymander? Or is it just evil when repubs do? Are we to delay our elections until dems are guaranteed total victory and control? What judge has been granted the power to delay elections and who granted him that power?

man of steel
Senior Contributor

Speaking of low info people.....Canuck

"Republicans hold 17 of the state’s 27 congressional seats, even though Democrats won nearly half of all votes in the state’s congressional races in 2012."

 

Please think about that little bit of information and then tell me what relevence it has

Red Steele
Veteran Advisor

Re: Speaking of low info people.....Canuck

I guess what our comrade is saying is that Mitt Romney, having won about 49% of the nations votes, should have been POTUS about half of the time.

 

Which, btw, is what a leader actually would recognize...that there is a sizeable opposition, and when that opposition are the movers and shakers of a nation, maybe , just maybe, you would be advised to include them in the affairs of government.

kraft-t
Senior Advisor

Re: Low Info Voters?

I guess state wide voting eliminates that. Congressional districts should be determined by population and formed by geometrical shapes to acheive that. There should be no gerrymandering districts to give an advantage to either party.

 

Thus each district would be square shaped or as close to that as is possible. Or a rectangle as some districts would require larger districts than theurban areas. Shaping district for political advantage is simply wrong whether democrats or republicans prefer it.

 

I think the voters of this country deserve some degree of electoral fairness and should not be tilted in  anyone's favor by districting.

Taylor ECIL
Senior Contributor

Re: Speaking of low info people.....Canuck

The democrat govenor of Illinois lost 100 out of 102 counties yet was still elected They should recall him and put in another party...oh the injustice of it all.

Canuck_2
Senior Contributor

Re: Low Info Voters?


r3020 wrote:

Dems don't gerrymander? Or is it just evil when repubs do? Are we to delay our elections until dems are guaranteed total victory and control? What judge has been granted the power to delay elections and who granted him that power?


They might but this case was about Republicans.

 

When you break the law I would think any judge that the case comes in front of has the power to require things be fixed as the law requires.

bruce MN
Advisor

Re: What happens if the R`s win the senate, Sam?

Thanks for putting that up. Good to read tom and Dagwud again.
Canuck_2
Senior Contributor

Re: Speaking of low info people.....Canuck


@man of steel wrote:

"Republicans hold 17 of the state’s 27 congressional seats, even though Democrats won nearly half of all votes in the state’s congressional races in 2012."

 

Please think about that little bit of information and then tell me what relevence it has


In a true democracy especially when there are only 2 parties the number of seats won should come close to matching the 5 of votes cast.

 

So 17 out of 44 is higher % than the slightly more than 50%  of votes.

Does that not bother you that equal representation is not happening????