I don't think you guys even know why

[r3020]

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@OKdon wrote:

Union membership like shareholder membership is voluntary. You can quit your job or sell your stock. No one is captive to the will of the majority.

A unions job is to negotiate in the interest of the employees. Managements job is to negotiate in the interest of the share holders. 3020 has no dog in that hunt, nor should he care one way or the other.

As a farmer I would think you would favor the interests of the folks that are your customers. Instead some folks have the idea that labor should accept the terms of the employer no matter what they are.

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People also have the right to go to the ballot box and elect those who will not force them the join a union just because they want to take certain jobs. It's called freedom.

[hobbyfarm2145365]

Once again you try this as before this is DISclosed contributions >>>>>now search for the UNdisclosed contributiuons and dark money?????   get informed yor alow information voter.

By the way the Kock Bros have report they will provide 889 million dollars for 2016 elections, 

[BA Deere]

If you think Democrats are lily white on this, you`re only fooling yourself.   Obama`s total raised and spent was  twice  that of McCain`s, that is why Obama broke his promise to take federal matching funds, so that there would be   no limit  on how much he could collect and spend in 2008.

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/  

Here`s the totals on Romney and Obama 2012,  notice Microsoft, Google and THE US Government  gave Obama $728,000...what`s up with that???

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/#out 

Now, if you`ll look hobby, "Nex Gen Climate" (that is one man, Tom Steyer) gave Braley over $5.5 million..that was about  half of what he spent on his  entire campaign against Joni Ernst

http://www.opensecrets.org/races/summary.php?id=IAS2&cycle=2014   

[Red Steele]

maybe the sign had the picture of the hildebeast on it, and it was scaring the local kids.

[hobbyfarm2145365]

after reading your "data" you don't know much about what campaign spending and out side campaign spending.?

your data is campaign spending only

the koch bros along with fellow billionaires and millionaires combined to spend over 400 millin in 2014 campaigns to buy elections for repulbs  in both state houses  and congress.   it appears you joni ernsts was one,, she publicaly thanked the koch bros for her success..

is this what you want our state/federal electiions controlded  by wealhty individuals  whether dem or repub...............

[BA Deere]

Tom Steyer constantly ran "call Joni" ads..all summer, where the problem was for Braley, most of us Iowans thought MORE of Joni Ernst after hearing the "negative ads".  That is how out of touch that the liberal elitests are 

The totals of what a campagin spends IS the bottomline.  You are a liberal Democrat, even if you`re trying to be clever, you don`t see any problem with the FACT that the media is slanted to the LEFT.   Oh we got "Fox News"  I don`t even get Fox News, so I have to discern the truth out of the news that everybody else gets.   I was in a hotel the other day and was able to watch tv, "The Five" came on what a terrific show!  2 intelligent smokin` hot women..2 conservative guys, i think and one stupid but a little smarter than the average liberal...That`s the way it should be!  Just the complete opposite of regular tv news.  The Five is the best show EVER!!   I gotta get me a dish for Fox News.  No wonder Fox News is #1 ! 

[r3020]

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@hobbyfarm2145365 wrote:

after reading your "data" you don't know much about what campaign spending and out side campaign spending.?

your data is campaign spending only

the koch bros along with fellow billionaires and millionaires combined to spend over 400 millin in 2014 campaigns to buy elections for repulbs  in both state houses  and congress.   it appears you joni ernsts was one,, she publicaly thanked the koch bros for her success..

is this what you want our state/federal electiions controlded  by wealhty individuals  whether dem or repub...............

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When you want big government you get big government and all of the prks that come with it. If you want the money out of Washington you have to first take the power out of Washington.

[BA Deere]

Exactly 3020.  And anyone serious about cleaning up election campaigns has got to at least tell me what is wrong with "second choice voting".  Don and the "bomb throwers" are happy with Democrats, they won`t consider second choice voting for fear their liberal ox may be gored in some way.

http://www.economist.com/node/21533435 

We don`t vote "for" a candidate, in many cases we vote "against" the other guy...and that isn`t a healthy republic.  If we felt safe voting for a 3rd party, more voters would partiscipate in election and nullify the Big money that`s poured into the 2 main political parties,

[Red Steele]

BA, from the limited exposure that I have had to FOX news on the promo free sirus radio, it is a really good product and refreshing. I can see why it soared to number one across the nation.

We need more networks like FOX, and less CBS, NBC, etc. PBS is a public joke, too, on most days.

[BA Deere]

Hey Red, I`m too tight to have cable or sirius radio I can get 12-4 Fox tv out of Mankato to get Fox News Sunday and like that because of Chris Wallace and George Will.  I guess most tv I watch is on PBS  I watch McLaughlin Group cause I love to argue  🙂  Market to Market, Nova Washington week, Frontline.  But, I`m just at that comfortable spot in my life where i know BS when I hear it.  i probably subconsciously raise the volume on facts they give and lower the volume on unimportant stuff ...like most of what my Wife says....ohhh i`m gonna get in trouble for that  🙂