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Senior Contributor

If more guns make us safer

Do you feel safer than you did 5 or 10 years ago? They have been selling guns in record numbers. just wondering if enough was ever going tto be enough and americans were ever going to be safe enough.

 

That kind of logic should find support for the arming all nations. When everybody gets a nuke then we can all rest comfortably. It's not nukes that kill people. It's people that kill people.

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Senior Contributor

Re: If more guns make us safer

Aren't all the Republican candidates going to encourage guns to be brought to their rallies, so everyone would be safer?

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Honored Advisor

Re: If more guns make us safer

I have always felt safe, but I don`t live in the hood...yet.   For your analogy to work Don, criminals would have to have legal access to firearms and that simply is not the case.  We do restrict guns from felons, it`s illegal for a felon to be in possession of a gun.

 

 

In the case of nukes, in the eyes of the world, North Korea and Iran are "criminals" therefore it`s prudent to restict nuke weapons from them.

 

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Senior Contributor

Re: If more guns make us safer

I would guess maybe 20% are carrying at the rallies. I met Cruz the other day at a meet and greet. I was carrying, no problems.

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Veteran Advisor

Re: If more guns make us safer

Just out of curiousity, what type of screening did you go through to be able to meet Cruz while carrying a gun? And does Cruz get secret service protection like the old hag does?

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Re: I suspect the old hag has secret service protection

because she is a former first lady. I suspect Laura Bush has it as well as do others.

 

Why would anyone protect cruz? 3/4ths of the senate would prefer he not exist!

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Senior Contributor

Re: If more guns make us safer

There was no ss there. Shook his hand visited for a little bit. Told him to keep fighting against this lawless President. Standing room only.

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Senior Advisor

Re: I suspect the old hag has secret service protection


@OKdon wrote:

because she is a former first lady. I suspect Laura Bush has it as well as do others.

 

Why would anyone protect cruz? 3/4ths of the senate would prefer he not exist!


That's a good thing. That's the 3/4 that pead your SS away.

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Veteran Advisor

Re: If more guns make us safer

Well, here are some different views on that.

Gun Shows- Perhaps the most surprising conservative venue that bans loaded weapons are gun shows. Crossroads Gun Show, which tours across the country, explained why even concealed carry permit holders can’t bring loaded weapons into the event: “Safety is our Number One Priority, and a safe environment in the show can only be maintained if there are no loaded guns in the show.” This past weekend, gun shows from Florida to California to Ohio prohibited visitors to carry loaded firearms.
Political Conferences- Conservative conferences frequently prohibit guests from bringing firearms. One recent example was the Morning in Nevada PAC’s Inaugural Basque Fry, a sold-out event featuring GOP presidential candidates Ben Carson, Carly Fiorina, George Pataki, Ted Cruz, and Scott Walker. The event’s FAQ page answered the question “Can I bring licensed firearms?” with a simple “No.”
George W. Bush Presidential Library- Though Bush was a strong proponent of gun rights, his presidential library in Dallas demands that all visitors leave their firearms at home. According to a sign posted outside, guns are prohibited “For the security of our visitors, staff and facility.”


Republican Conventions- Firearms were banned at the 2012 Republican National Convention in Tampa, even as delegates inside passed language into the party platform affirming that Republicans “acknowledge, support, and defend the law-abiding citizen’s God-given right of self-defense.” State Republican conventions also regularly forbid guns. Indiana Republicans recently enacted legislation allowing guns in school parking lots, but held their 2014 convention in a facility that forbid firearms.
Trump Hotels And Golf Courses- Despite Trump’s vociferous opposition to gun-free zones, numerous Trump hotels and golf courses, from Chicago to Los Angeles to Honolulu, do not allow firearms on the premises, even for concealed-carry permitholders.
NRA Events- Though the National Rifle Association said gun-free zones “encourage criminals and psychopaths,” the group held some of its annual meeting events in Nashville’s Bridgestone Arena, which bans weapons. The year prior, the NRA held events in Indianapolis’ Lucas Oil Stadium, another gun-free zone.
Town Halls- Guns are frequently prohibited at GOP congressional town hall meetings, especially after the shooting of former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ) in 2011. Even stalwart conservatives like Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) and former Rep. Allen West (R-FL) opted to ban firearms at their town halls.
Presidential Campaign Stops- Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R), a prominent gun advocate who has signed legislation expanding gun rights, prohibited “guns, ammunition, fireworks, electric stun guns, mace, selfie-sticks, martial arts weapons/devices, or knives of any size” from his presidential campaign kick-off event. Other GOPers, like former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GA) in 2012, have also banned concealed firearms at their events.
GOP Debates- Cleveland’s Quicken Loans Arena, which hosted the first Republican presidential debate earlier this month, declared that “firearms and other weapons of any kind are strictly forbidden.” Guns will also be forbidden in the upcoming GOP debate held in Colorado.
Congress- Republicans enjoy a majority in both wings of Congress and could change the rules to permit firearms on Capitol grounds if they wished. It would not be without precedent; until 1967, there was no rule prohibiting guns in or around Congress. However, strict security was implemented in the early 1980s after a series of high-profile shootings and bombings.