If the minimum wage was lowered to $3.50 per hour

[Red Steele]

Seriously Kraft, with all the crap going on both in the USA right now, and around the world, you really think the USA minimum wage is an issue to get all worked up over?

If that is one of the biggest concerns on your radar, you really are a fruitloop.

[gough whitlam]

wehav Senior Contributor
Sep 26
Actually get rid of Democrat control and wages and jobs would both increase.

Build pipelines.
Burn coal for lower cost energy.
Quit adding stuff to cars making them cost more.
Get rid of insane building codes, (note insane not all building codes)
Curb the EPA power.
Put back the Bush tax rates so low income people don't pay 15% but only 10%. So little is mentioned or said about the 50%rise in tax on the poor by Obama and the Democrats.
Repair our roads and bridges as well as the grid. That would be a massive amount of good and it would create a lot of jobs.

If it was that easy GWB would have done it so stop belly aching about it now. But you vote for the capitalists so have a word to your buddies kock bros.

[OKdon]

So you think a factory owner should forget management and if he is incapable of competing, his work force should pay the price. Minimum wage raises the price for all businesses.  He is so stupid that he has a whole years inventory on hand and he can't pay his help a living wage. I suppose you man your hired hand pay the cost of your incompetence.

I ndon't know how employers have this gift of determining how much a worker is worth. Is there something magical that give you the talent to state that worker A is only worth 7.15 per hour. That is the holy grail of capitalist republicans that labor shouldn't negotiate wage. Just take what ever they can get whether you can feed your family or not.

If we had 50 million americans working for a Dollar per hour that would be true capitalism at work. And farmers are the worst. They batch about over paid workers and they don't even have to pay the wage. But let some ceo pull down $200 million per year and that is ok because he is worth it.

I think a business man that cannot pay decent wages ought to shut his business down and make room for a business that is capable of running it.

I'm thinking about starting a movement to ban tipping. Make the businesses pay their own workers instead of of relying on the patrons to pay their staff.. If your boss can't pay you leave your job. I'm giving you nothing.

[Milligan Hay - Iowa d:^)]

Hey, I'm following what you are saying, therefore, we need to pass a law for a minimum price for a bale of hay! I'm thinking that a $20 minimum per bale of hay is about right. We can't have hay growers working day and night for anything less. Yep, great idea!😉

[bruce MN]

Yo. Craig If you aren't getting an exorbinately high price for a ale of hay in this protein producing market you ain't got the hay thAt this market needs and desires. And is anxious to pay for it Horrid analogy. If you've only specialized in producing what it takes to simply and no more than keep horses alive you're the modern day equivalent of the Edsel and the Gremlin in the hottest run of auto retail in the modern era.

[Milligan Hay - Iowa d:^)]

Let me borrow the tag line from our esteemed friend, Man of Steel......


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Minimum wage isn't a law requiring employers to PAY their workers that amount...it's a law that prohibits you from hiring people whose labor is worth LESS than that amount.

[Milligan Hay - Iowa d:^)]

This is what happens when demands for higher wages exceeds the value of the work being done.

See this example..... http://youtu.be/R46x6k2wieU

[r3020]

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@OKdon wrote:

I ndon't know how employers have this gift of determining how much a worker is worth.

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Who determines what your custom operator is worth?

[man of steel]

I see brucey is as IgnoRant about the hay market as he is about reality in general

[cityslicker]

So you think management is in charge of all except labor costs? He can pay whatever labor wants and all other costs are at his discretion? If all the pieces of the pie aren't on the table how can it be devided? Putting this in farming terms, when you hire someone to plant your farm, Why not hire about 3 times as many custom operators that use 2 or 4 row machines? I'm sure they would be worth as much per hour as the 12 or 16 row guy.