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Islamophobia, not Islam, will be the end of Israel

http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/a-special-place-in-hell/islamophobia-not-islam-will-be-the-end-of-israe...                                  ---

snip----Israel has elaborate defense systems against military attack and terrorism. Its defenses against its extremists, such as professional bigot Pamela Geller, are much more porous.

 

 

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Re: Islamophobia, not Islam, will be the end of Israel

SAN FRANCISCO – Everyone knows how it works. Everyone knows what it sounds like. Everyone knows how easy it is to get away with it.

   Everyone knows, deep down, that hatred feeds on tolerance. That however well-intentioned, a society’s forbearance for the toxic slur, for the poison of ethnic or religious or racial prejudice, does hatred invaluable service.                    

 

   No one knows this better than professional bigots. People like Pamela Geller, who pass themselves off as supporters of a worthy cause even as their hatred and prejudice stain and undermine anything and everything worthy about that cause.        

 

  For years, in the guise of supporting Israel, Geller has engaged in promoting hatred of Islam. In recent weeks, in a campaign timed to coincide with Muslims’ observance of the sacred month of Ramadan, her American Freedom Defense Initiative has run caustic, self-styled “pro-Israel” advertisements on the sides of public transit buses in San Francisco.                  

  In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man,” the ads begin, white letters on black. Below it, in blue letters flanked by Stars of David, it read “Support Israel” and below that, in red, “Defeat Jihad.”                          

  Last year, when Geller’s group tried to place the ads on public buses in New York, the city’s Metropolitan Transit Authority rejected them as violating its prohibition on messages that demean individuals or groups. But in July, a federal judge in Manhattan ruled that the Geller group had been denied First Amendment guarantees of free speech. That same day, the ads went up in San Francisco.                                         

 

  Geller told ABC News that the purpose of the ads was to counter “fallacious and dangerous” ads on San Francisco area transit trains a year ago, urging cuts in U.S. aid to Israel. “If I had my way, the (“support Israel” ads) would be in every city in the United States of America, and if I can get the funding, that’s exactly what’s going to happen.”                                                                 

   To its credit, Muni, the San Francisco transit agency, did more than simply mount Geller’s message. It condemned the ads. Alongside them. In bus ads of its own.                             

   In a move without precedent, Muni said in the new ads that its policy “prohibits discrimination based on national origin, religion, and other characteristics, and condemns statements that describe any group as ‘savages.’”                                                 

  Muni spokesman Paul Rose said that while Muni is bound by the First Amendment, “Obviously we think the [Geller-sponsored] ads in place right now are repulsive and they definitely cross the line.”

 

  Of late, in tandem with anti-Palestinian and anti-Arab attacks by radical settlers and Arab-hating Jewish youths in Israel and the territories (“He’s an Arab. He deserves to die,” a 14-year-old assault suspect told a court on Monday), there are troubling signs in America of a tendency to conflate hatred of Muslims with support for a Jewish state.                                               

 

 The Arabs are one of the least developed cultures,” a “pro-Israel” NGO called the Ayn Rand Center for Individual Rights quotes Geller’s ideological inspiration as having said in a 1974 speech. “Their culture is primitive, and they resent Israel because it’s the sole beachhead of modern science and civilization on their continent. When you have civilized men fighting savages, you support the civilized men, no matter who they are.”             

 

  In this light, Bay Area Jews are to be especially commended for denouncing Geller and her works. J., the community newspaper, said that “any right-thinking person, Jewish or not, must oppose these ads.” The Anti-Defamation League called the ads “highly offensive and inflammatory,” and the Jewish Community Relations Council and the American Jewish Committee issued a similar denunciation.                                                                         

 

  At root, this is what Geller denies: Israel can only exist as a democracy if it continually acts to foster and equalize the rights of its Arab citizens, not abrogate and dismiss them. It can only exist as a democracy if it actively works to end the unperson status of the Palestinians of the West Bank and East Jerusalem. A true democracy cannot treat bigotry with understanding. It has to fight it, or its sense of democracy has no meaning.                        

 

   At root, the Geller and pro-Kahane brand of “support of Israel,” is little more than a slash and burn Arab–hate that, if left unanswered, will tear apart the Israel and the Jewish community from within. It blinds people to solutions. It convinces people that there are no solutions. It persuades people that there are no options apart from violence, both of word and deed.          

 

    Israel has elaborate defense systems against military attack and terrorism. Its defenses against its own extremists are much more porous.                                                                       

 

  The Gellers and Kahanists attack Israel at the root. An Israel torn apart from within doesn’t need an external enemy to destroy it. The enemy is right here.

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Re: Islamophobia, not Islam, will be the end of Israel

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It is troubling that the Democratic National Convention has decided to promote and lend its name and national political platform to the organizers of the “Jummah at the DNC”. The leaders of this event – Jibril Hough and Imam Siraj Wahhaj as advertised are no moderates. They are radicals. These individuals embrace Islamist supremacy and have demonstrated support for radical ideologies.

A quick Google search by the DNC would have shown them that Hough and Wahhaj are leaders in the separatist American Islamist movement. While they may be able to get a few thousand Muslims to attend the event, they are NOT going to be mainstream Muslims.  Most will likely come from Hough and Wahhaj’s radical networks that have long been entrenched in the Charlotte area. Make no mistake they are part of the Islamist movement.

This is not about their right of assembly; this group under a different name pulled the same stunt at the US capitol in 2009 claiming 20k and getting 2-3k. THIS IS ABOUT the DNC calling this an “official function” listing these radicals as typical of the DNC community and more importantly about this organization speaking out AS representing supposedly typical American Muslims (or “Mainstream”).

If that is who the DNC is consorting with then all Americans, Democrats should be concerned. There are many patriotic Muslims who are part of both parties, and when radical ideologues like this do a demonstration of “solidarity” in the name of our faith and choose an imam like Siraj Wahhaj who I saw with my own eyes in 1995 seditiously say it his duty and our duty as Muslims to replace the US Constitution with the Quran- then we need to speak up!

Their jummah (group) prayer is supposedly against the Patriot Act, the NYPD, and Islamophobia and is actually NOT about our democracy but about empowering their Islamist and MB sympathetic groups into the very fabric of the political system so that Americans become anesthetized. We need American Muslims to speak up and marginalize these radicals. The DNC needs to understand and reject them because of their radical history and ideas.

They use our American Muslim identity to speak as “one community” as a political unit or as a “bloc vote” – a political Islamist party when in fact most us Muslims don’t want that political unity and seek reform against their ideology that seeks to hijack our community. They do not represent us.

 

http://aifdemocracy.org/2012/the-trouble-with-jumah-at-the-dnc/

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Re: Islamophobia, not Islam, will be the end of Israel

  Do you have any comments about the article?    As one of the most devoted follower of Geller and other racists, you have no comment about the author's opinion of Plastic Pam ?   How about BS and Jimmy Boy, your guru is being exposed ?

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Re: Islamophobia, not Islam, will be the end of Israel


@johnaa wrote:

  Do you have any comments about the article?    As one of the most devoted follower of Geller and other racists, you have no comment about the author's opinion of Plastic Pam ?   How about BS and Jimmy Boy, your guru is being exposed ?


I have never heard of Pam Geller

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Re: Islamophobia, not Islam, will be the end of Israel

   Do you have any comments directed to the article? 

 

UN HUH !!  You have made that claim before, so you have heard of her, you have replied to posts of BS in which he names and quotes her.  You have also cut and paste from her site, which I pointed out at least once.   Your lies are worship of your master, the Prince of Lies.

 

   You are constantly ranting and raving the same islamophobic hate she preaches and you link to sites run by her group of Islamophobe hatemongers, like Daniel Pipes,  David Horwitz, David's employee Robert Spencer and Zuhdi Jesser.   You can find pictures of them with the Plastic Pam online, they work together and you are their parrot.    

 

 

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Re: Islamophobia, not Islam, will be the end of Israel


@johnaa wrote:

   Do you have any comments directed to the article? 

 

UN HUH !!  You have made that claim before, so you have heard of her, you have replied to posts of BS in which he names and quotes her.  You have also cut and paste from her site, which I pointed out at least once.   Your lies are worship of your master, the Prince of Lies.

 

   You are constantly ranting and raving the same islamophobic hate she preaches and you link to sites run by her group of Islamophobe hatemongers, like Daniel Pipes,  David Horwitz, David's employee Robert Spencer and Zuhdi Jesser.   You can find pictures of them with the Plastic Pam online, they work together and you are their parrot.    

 

 


Post something I cut and pasted from her site. I have never heard of her, oh I'm sure you have accused me of posting from her site before but I have never been on her site. Please post a link, sounds like she knows the dangers of radical islam just like the article I posted below.

 

According to you anyone who does not want the destruction of Israel is a islamophobe. Tell me JihadAA, did islamophobe bomb the Christian Churches in Egpyt. Did islamophobe burn down the home of Christians with them hiding inside? Did islamophobe drive every last Christian out of afganistan? Did islamophobe kill the muslim man who sold his home to a Jew?

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More "spitflying" hysterical Ranting and LIES

   "According to you anyone who does not want the destruction of Israel is a islamophobe."  Strawman.  You just got nothing but LIES and hysterical wailing.  You can't expect to act like a child hiding behind a wild LIES and exaggeration on a adult talk site.  GROW UP !   You rant and rave off topic, everyone can see your purpose, well most everyone, but he doesn't count.

 

  You post several Islamophobic hate material every day, and you are so ashamed of being an Islamophobe hate monger you have a tissy.     If you do not want to discuss the issues of the relationship between politicians from Israel's racist fascist parties and the neocons, why don't you just be content with starting you sick threads and stop making a fool and a bore by posting crap that does not follow the topic ?    It couldn't be because you are part a campaign, could it ? 

 

 

 

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Re: More "spitflying" hysterical Ranting and LIES


@johnaa wrote:

   "According to you anyone who does not want the destruction of Israel is a islamophobe."  Strawman.  You just got nothing but LIES and hysterical wailing.  You can't expect to act like a child hiding behind a wild LIES and exaggeration on a adult talk site.  GROW UP !   You rant and rave off topic, everyone can see your purpose, well most everyone, but he doesn't count.

 

  You post several Islamophobic hate material every day, and you are so ashamed of being an Islamophobe hate monger you have a tissy.     If you do not want to discuss the issues of the relationship between politicians from Israel's racist fascist parties and the neocons, why don't you just be content with starting you sick threads and stop making a fool and a bore by posting crap that does not follow the topic ?    It couldn't be because you are part a campaign, could it ? 

 

 

 


It is muslims who kill muslims. It is muslims who kill Jews. It is muslims who kill Christians. Those are the facts. Pointing that out is not islamophobic, it is pointing out truth.

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Re: More "spitflying" hysterical Ranting and LIES

HAAAAAA    Sure, you're just pointing out, not a hatemongering Islamophobeand you have never told a LIE in the last minute.   It's only a coincidence the neocons you support want war and Islamophobia is their tool of deception to mislead America into another war.

 

  BTW:   It is Israelis who have murdered thousands of innocent muslims, chrtistians, druse, athiests, children especially, because they are Palestinians and Arabs.    

 

   The reason can't you respond to the subject of the Haaretz article, is because it's about you and Jim Crow.

 

    Real people who are concerned about the your brand of hatemongering are Jews  --- snip--"In this light, Bay Area Jews are to be especially commended for denouncing Geller and her works. J., the community newspaper, said that “any right-thinking person, Jewish or not, must oppose these ads.” The Anti-Defamation League called the ads “highly offensive and inflammatory,” and the Jewish Community Relations Council and the American Jewish Committee issued a similar denunciation."