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Israel Joe's senate bill to censor Internet, forget 1st amendment

 http://news.antiwar.com/2010/06/18/senate-bill-would-give-obama-power-to-shut-down-internet/

 

snip-The introduction of a new Senate bill, S.3480, dubbed theProtecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act of 2010,is sparking concerns about a massive power grab over the Internet under the guise ofnational security.”

 

The billproposed by Sen. Joe Lieberman (I – CT) claims the entire Internet, the whole global computer networ..., and seeks to give President Obama the power to seize control over broad swaths of it with no oversight during aNational Cyber Emergency,” which would itself be something the president would be able to declare at any time.

But easily the most controversial aspect of the nearly 200 page bill is what is being called akill switch,” granting the president the power to shut down the entire Internet across the planet for national sec.... Sen. Collins (RME), a supporter of the bill, claimed it was necessary to prevent acyber 9/11.”

The bill amounts to a remarkable claim of presidential power, claiming a large portion of the global economy as a specific asset of the United States and further claiming the right to nationalize or destroy it in whole or part on a whim. The news may be disquieting enough for Americans faced with this sort of power grab from their own government, but for foreigners the idea that another nation can commandeer the Internet, cut them off from it, or render it unusable is totally shocking, and not surprisingly, a source of no small consternation.

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Advisor

Re: Israel Joe's senate bill to censor Internet, forget 1st amendment

WikiLeaks Video on Afghan Attack Imminent 

 

http://news.antiwar.com/2010/06/18/wikileaks-video-on-afghan-attack-said-to-be-imminent/

 

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WikiLeaks has been reported to be in possession of the video in question for months, which shows the May 5 2009 US air strike against a village in Farah Province.

Afghan investigators concluded that the attack killed upwards of 140 civilians, and that more than half of them were children. The US claimed the villagers deliberately exaggerated the toll to get more compensation from the military.

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Veteran Advisor

Re: Israel Joe's senate bill to censor Internet, forget 1st amendment

That isn't the way it was explained to me.  It only gives the power to shut down vital govt and business networks in case of a concentrated cyber attack against this country.  This would be to protect data and not to take over the planet.  GEEZZZ!

Advisor

Re: Israel Joe's senate bill to censor Internet, forget 1st amendment

 Well then share your source with us?   At best it sounds like the camels nose.  Considering the author of this challenge to the 1st amendment is one of the major agents of a foreign political gang which has lobbied for regime change, global domination, etc. it doesn't pass the smell test.

Senior Advisor

Re: Israel Joe's senate bill to censor Internet, forget 1st amendment

Islamic extremist have many times killed more then that on a Friday afternoon suicide attack on mosques or burning girl's schools.

Veteran Advisor

Re: Back up to Free Communication

Knowing that the days of National Socialism (Nazism) were on their way.... my brother and other liberty loving patriots have developed the "Virtual Pirate Networks" and "Tor" that will replace the censored Internet.  It has special designs to foil censorship, and pier t0 pier e-mail. (no snooping)

There is ALWAYS a way around censorship, ..........always!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship

Senior Advisor

My how things "change"

Now not only do they want to listen to your phone conversations, they also want to read your email.

 

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Fighting homegrown terrorism by monitoring Internet communications is a civil liberties trade-off the U.S. government must make to beef up national security, the nation's homeland security chief said Friday.

As terrorists increasingly recruit U.S. citizens, the government needs to constantly balance Americans' civil rights and privacy with the need to keep people safe, said Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano.

But finding that balance has become more complex as homegrown terrorists have used the Internet to reach out to extremists abroad for inspiration and training. Those contacts have spurred a recent rash of U.S.-based terror plots and incidents.

"The First Amendment protects radical opinions, but we need the legal tools to do things like monitor the recruitment of terrorists via the Internet," Napolitano told a gathering of the American Constitution Society for Law and Policy.

Napolitano's comments suggest an effort by the Obama administration to reach out to its more liberal, Democratic constituencies to assuage fears that terrorist worries will lead to the erosion of civil rights

 

The administration has faced a number of civil liberties and privacy challenges in recent months as it has tried to increase airport security by adding full-body scanners, or track suspected terrorists traveling into the United States from other countries.

"Her speech is sign of the maturing of the administration on this issue," said Stewart Baker, former undersecretary for policy with the Department of Homeland Security. "They now appreciate the risks and the trade-offs much more clearly than when they first arrived, and to their credit, they've adjusted their preconceptions."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/18/napolitano-says-keeping-america-safe-require-civil-liberty-priv...

 

Veteran Advisor

Re: Israel Joe's senate bill to censor Internet, forget 1st amendment

So you aren't in favor of protecting the internet and your computer and the nation's secrets and vital business info??  I suppose also, that Collins in a RINO.

Advisor

Re: Israel Joe's senate bill to censor Internet, forget 1st amendment

 I'm interested in protecting Liberty, like the Liberty the first amendment was designed to protect, and, I most certainly do not buy what you are selling, giving up freedom for an illusion of safety is unwise.  Liberty demand some risks, the price of freedom.  Once government is allowed to take power, it will be abused sooner and later- "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed(and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."  Mencken.  

 

  Looks like you swallowed the entire hook line and sinker, and, it apears you do not wish to discuss your source of the information.  Would you believe this BS if it was proposed during Cheney's reign?  The criminals behind the AIPAC mob spent billions buying America's media, then the internet appears and nullifies it all, so their paid puppets use the old line about protecting us from the boogie man, when what they want is protection from Truth.