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Canuck_2
Senior Contributor

Just wondering

I understand Trump is going to get rid of the insurance program to cover your health costs but I have not been able to find out what he plans to help people needing care to pay for that.

I do not mean the regular routine checkup type of stuff but how will people pay for a catastrophic health care need that runs into hundreds of thousands of dollars or even into the millions.

So there are several people on here who are great Trump supporters can they answer what the plan is to give people health care when it gets very expensive?

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BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: Just wondering

Well, what we had pre-2010 worked pretty good...at least it worked and wasn`t high deductable catatrophic insurance and you didn`t get fined for not having it.  Obamacare isn`t working as promised, the Democrats passed it, now we "see what was in it" premiums up 60% 70% +++ let`s see what Trump does specifically propose and go from there.

Canuck_2
Senior Contributor

Re: Just wondering

So the old way left about 1/3 without insurance if my memory is correct.

So you still want to keep an insurance system but only cover some people?

 

What do you do with the rest? How do they get care because I am sure they are the ones least able to pay for even a regular checkup let alone a real health issue?

sw363535
Honored Advisor

Re: Just wondering

Private insurance and job based plans were just fine before other than health care itself was getting pretty expensive in the tug of war between insurance companies and medical providers.

 

obamacare was basically a forced program to give insurance to the nonworking poor who were getting their healthcare free through government health services and county or state hospitals from govermnent assistance.   Those government provided services to the poor were getting too expensive so obamacare waas an attempt to get health insurance to the uninsured poor and transfer the cost of that healthcare from the government back to the general public through higher premiums for everyone...

It might have worked but the government was never honest about the number and scope of the uninsured healthcare costs....it was a bloated problem with way too many uninsured coming into a program funded by way too few.

The economic downturn and ever decreasing job market since 2008..... (largely denied by government statistics)....... has not helped....

Large numbers of baby boomers going out of the insurance pool into medicare   

All contributing to a failed and ill concieved program.

Canuck_2
Senior Contributor

Re: Just wondering

So I am still confused how an insurance program that gave insurance to everyone is now going to become the old system of an insurance program with gvernment subsidies that left a lot of people without health care and cost too much is going to solve the proble of people going without care?

 

What is the plan except to go back to what was not working by waht you say?

 

BTW I remember talking to a man in Ontario in the 1970ies who with his 8 or 9 siblings was helping his brother who had moved to the US with medical costs for his family.

They had lost their house and each of the Ontario members of the family were chipping in $10,000 to help out their brother.

He said since they did not have to pay for health care here they were able to help him out.

 

Are  we going to have to subsidize care in your country again?

BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: Just wondering

No, the unisured would go to the ER (like they still do even now with insurance) and the hospital would eat the bill (and pass it to paying customers).  There has been for a long time  "Medicade" for hardup people.  The counties also pick up title 19 medical costs of hardup people, states like Iowa had "Hawkeye program" for hardup kids.  It wasn`t perfect before, but now some insurance companies are broke and less or no competition for the one or few left, that`s why premiums are up 60%.  Obamacare failed. 

Canuck_2
Senior Contributor

Re: Just wondering

So the plan was to go back to the old way?

I can not find that listed just that he will get rid of the insurance plan you have now.

 

Are you sure he is not going to bring in single payer and get rid of all the extra costs involved in insurance plans?

 

I can not find what he is going to do after getting rid of the plans you have now.

 

What you had before left people with no care except emergencies and it was argued that led to higher costs because they were really sick when the went to the ER rather than being treated before they got so sick.

The old way was too expensive and so it was changed but now you want to go back to the old expensive way.

 

What is Trumps plan?

 

You guys voteing for him shoud know what you voted for.

sw363535
Honored Advisor

Re: Just wondering

Actually we don't have that federal insurance plan yet.....

It is failing in the implementing stages..... It is far from functional for the country

sw363535
Honored Advisor

Re: Just wondering

I can not find what he is going to do after getting rid of the plans you have now.

 

Mr trump is probably looking for that as well.  Along with the congress  

 

sw363535
Honored Advisor

Re: Just wondering

Do politicians in Canada keep their word.....??

Do what they plan??

 

You should know....... you voted for them didn't you?