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BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Left does not have monopoly on science

https://patriotpost.us/opinion/48675     Yes Yes, I know "Patriot Post" and "Joe Bastardi" but what he says is true.

 

 

The March for ... What?

Joe Bastardi · Apr. 21, 2017
 
 

The March for Science is tomorrow and no one in their right mind would say they are against it because of its name. First of all, you are standing against the right of people to march for whatever cause they wish. Second, you would be portrayed as someone who is against science.

I am all for science. I think the climate changes. It always has and always will. Yet I have been portrayed as anti-science and a climate change “denier” by many who will be marching for things I certainly believe in.

Just who does not believe in science? It’s a straw man the marchers are marching against.

What is questionable is the way science is being portrayed and used. Here is an example. You have seen this a kajillion times; now it’s a kajillion and one.

This shows no apparent linkage between CO2 and temperature in a time scale that goes back millions of years. So as someone who is acquainted with the scientific method, I am instantly skeptical of the idea that after all this time, there is now a linkage. That does not mean there can’t be, and I am open to that argument and understand it. But as I asked in my last blog, how much linkage is there?

What I am trying to figure out is why there is a march when many of the people in that march have no tolerance for the questioning of their position. While I think it’s noble to be inclusive and diverse, are any “skeptics” included as speakers? Is there diversity of thought? Of course not. Because in spite of what you see in the graphs above and below, they ignore the obvious. The planet has always had temperature swings — larger than this and independent of CO2 — that should make any person searching for the truth skeptical as to how much CO2 contributes.

Questioning of dogma need not apply. That sounds more like religion than science. Being for science means being for discussion. So who is anti-science here? A classic case of “blame your opposition for what you are actually doing.” It is not the skeptic side shutting down debate.

One must be very careful when questioning the motives in academia. There seems to be two opposing forces today in society in general: people who seek to earn their keep, and people who believe they are owed their keep. There is no question that without research — much of it done in our schools, but also government and the private sector — we would not be where we are today. But guess what fuels the economic engine that allows people the grant money, etc., for research?

I have to question motivation. For instance, if man-made global warming is such a done deal, why are we researching it anymore? Actual settled science (freezing and boiling points of water, gravity, the sun is darn hot) is not being researched. So apparently AGW is not settled science. And for a good reason — if it is true this is all man-made, it’s the first time, established by science, in recorded history. Another reason for being skeptical.

But the statement by the former EPA director that the actions have shut down a lot of business in this country and were brakes on the American economic engine really says a lot about what may be behind this. Preventing only .01 Celsius (you can’t even measure that with certainty) over 30 years was not the main reason. Instead, it was being a good example for the rest of the world. When I heard that it was so absurd to me I thought it was meant to sabotage the EPA mission. But no one said boo about it.

Finally, there seems to be a mass denial (there is that nasty word) that the progress of humans, and of course researchers, has been huge in the fossil fuel era.

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bruce MN
Advisor

Re: Left does not have monopoly on science

ihtractortherap
Senior Contributor

Re: Left does not have monopoly on science

The climate has always cycled and will contine to do so. Let's don't give up freedom and money to those who think they know what's best for us.
BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: Left does not have monopoly on science

As Bastardi documents, earth has had warmer periods in it`s 4 billion yr history.  Look, that`s all fine putting up some solar panels and windmills (treehuggers aren`t fans of windmills) and all that stuff, however don`t sign all these Kyoto and Paris agreements where the US gets screwed and "citizens of the world" lose their human rights. 

NewAgJudge
Senior Contributor

Re: Left does not have monopoly on science

 

 

I wont copy / paste at you, but suffice to say that the misunderstanding / misrepresenting of the issue is beyond measure.

 

 

Also, A rabid trumpanzee from Steve King land has less than zero cred.

 

 

 

 

Canuck_2
Senior Contributor

Re: Left does not have monopoly on science

Why would he put that out as if the 'March for Science' was all about climate change?

 

science is about a lot of things beside climate change and if he is so sure of his data then he should refute the papers of others who study climate or perhaps publish his own and see how it stands up to peer review.

Until then it is just an opinion and the sort money should bet on the consensus of those who study climate and have published papers on it with peer review agreeing with their conclusions which of course means others replicated their  work and agree it is correct.

So post this again after it has been authenticated.