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Re: Let us Celebrate the Death
I got around the country in the 70s and 80s more than you could possibly imagine. Now and then you'd run into a crackpot or two who adhered to the crackpot notions that are driving the bagger and Trumpian wing of today's GOP.
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Re: Let us Celebrate the Death
That party whose National Senatorial Campaign Committee came out with a internet post that declared that a double amputee combat veteran member of Congress "doesn't STAND UP for veterans"?
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Re: Let us Celebrate the Death
Bruce, fergeddaboudit.
The decent Minnesota Republicans who you extoll are basically extinct elsewhere.
It is RIP for the GOP. The volk got wise to about 20% of the scam and ran with that and the other 80% that they'd been getting fed for the last 40 years.
Dems are a sorry outfit as well but future direction will more than likely be the driving force of the intermediate future.
Demography is destiny.
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Re: Let us Celebrate the Death
If I`m hearing you correctly, you`re calling everyone that believes in actual immigration laws being enforced and having a border around this country, "Xenophobians". And those with that designation are obsolete.
It`s a pretty neat package that you`ve got, either we tear down this country`s borders, pass more gun control after every tragedy and come up with a comperable socialistic healthcare plan to Obamacare, then we in the GOP are relegated to the trash heap of history. Well, we will go down fighting with General Trump.
What`s ironic is, if we fail there won`t be any place for you liberals with a couple nickels to rub together to hide either, I just don`t think you`re aware of it yet.

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Re: Try Again!
@NewAgJudge wrote:
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Re: Let us Celebrate the Death
@NewAgJudge wrote:
@hardnox wrote:
BTW, the first thing a cult tells you is that the other guys are lying to you.
But we're your friends.
Sounds like church.....
Is that what your church sounds like Nox?
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Re: Let us Celebrate the Death
@bruce MN wrote:
The country needs a functioning, countering Republican Party. The prospect of it imploding shouldn't bring delight to anyone. A little civil war...a notable disagreement is one thing, but what's taking form is a catastrophe. And very dangerous, seeing who the agreived parties may be,mand how they might be expected to respond.
Thing with the Democrat party, they have a long history of copious numbers of disagreeing factions. But generally have been able to coalesce over a few core principles. Anything that is written or proposed by right wingers, but one can be sure that at least or close to half of GOP voters buy in. Not anywhere near to that in the other one.
We haven't had a functioning countering repub party for a couple of decades.
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Re: Let us Celebrate the Death
@bruce MN wrote:
And as northnd says in another post a larger set of parties that would by necessity form coalitions would serve us much better
Ain't gonna happen, as it would marginalize the PTBs in the GOP. Since the 80s it's been a hostage situation. Clinton had to govern as one of them. Obama has more so than anybody would ever admit.
A hostage situation when the size of government has doubled?
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Re: Let us Celebrate the Death
@bruce MN wrote:
I got around the country in the 70s and 80s more than you could possibly imagine. Now and then you'd run into a crackpot or two who adhered to the crackpot notions that are driving the bagger and Trumpian wing of today's GOP.
That's when you were fighting the man. You won. Now you reap your reward.
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Re: Let us Celebrate the Death
I find it almost comical that the GOP danced with the tea baggers and they took control? So instead of a controlled nominating process they got a political free for all with conservative principles at stake. Trump is not a real republican nor is he a democrat. He is a corporatist with his own interest and agenda to guide him.
Most everyone will be disappointed in Trump because he won't/can't deliver as advertised. He will find out that most of what he proposes is not even possible legally or politically. The GOP and the dems will rein him in unless he dances to their tune. What makes you think the existing congress will give up power to an interloper? Their ties to corporate money and power cannot be broken. If it could the people would have broken it along time ago.
However, the free trade agreements may be at risk but even more so with a Sanders administrationbecause Bernie wouldveto anything that was friendly to imports. It would be to labors advantage but possibly not so for consumers. All that plastic crap you have been buying from the orient may be priced higher.
Irronically, free trade was supposed to benefit american producers of goods and services. The truth is america ships grain and other raw commodities at market values. In turn we get back manufactured goods at retail prices. Or more correctly wholesale prices for value added products. So while we sell more corn and beans they send back toyotas,lexus,audis, VW's etc.
Buying cheap and selling higher is certainly a boon for corporate america with lower production costs and wider margins while american labor costs are stagnant. Evidently business don't give a damn about a prosperous america. Instead a prosperous wall street is the only concern. Thus the war against labor is all consuming even to the extent that farmers support business interest rather than support a robust consumer base. I want my customers to have money in their pockets so they can buy porkchops and steak. You want your customers to buy big macs and french fries and prefer that they can barely afford that.