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bruce MN
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Liberal AND Christian?

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/cover_story/2016/05/how_liberal_christians_can_turn_the_democrats_into_the_party_of_god.html?google_editors_picks=true
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BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: Liberal AND Christian?

I`m not saying it`s impossible to be a Christian and and liberal simultaneously, but it would be very difficult and some idelogical gymnastics would be required.  i had a liberal woman and a Methodist man once try to tell me that "abortion is humane, if the woman isn`t going to take care of the baby, it`s better off that the baby was never born"...or better she kept her legs together if she wasn`t ready to take care of a kid, I muttered under my breath.   But I don`t recall anything in the Bible about killing your baby so as it wouldn`t mess with your fornicating lifestyle and actually be a act of "great humanity".

 

With this whole gay deal, the story of the destruction of Sodom and Gommorah.  Two angels visited Lot at his house and the old and young men of Sodom saw this and wanted to bang those two angels in the butt.  Well, God cause the butt bangers to go blind...well the city was destroyed and even Lot`s wife looking at the destruction was turned into a pillar of salt.  Okay, the liberal idea of baking cakes for gays....God destroyed an entire city over this, seems to me we shouldn`t be forced to bake cakes for this lifestyle.

 

This from the liberal New International Version, no less.

 

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+19&version=NIV

Jim.ia.us
Veteran Contributor

Re: Liberal AND Christian?

Hey Bruce,

The term Christian is not defined in the Bible. Jesus called his followers Disciples. So, people can call themselves "christians" and can act anyway they see fit in their eyes. Call yourself a disciple, abortion becomes very evil.

 

 

Without Christ, life is out of focus.

hardnox
Advisor

Re: Liberal AND Christian?

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/17/books/review/one-nation-under-god-by-kevin-m-kruse.html?_r=0

 

If you haven't read it, basically a play by play of how the right wing captured American christianity to such an extent that most believe that God sent his son to annoint the Pharisees.

 

I'm particularly fascinated by Falwell Jr. and Franklin Graham who have taken over the family business and clearly don't know whether to @#$% or go blind.

 

Kind of an interesting study about family businesses and dynamics, something that people in farming know a lot about first hand if they can take what they've observed and apply it.

 

hardnox
Advisor

Re: Liberal AND Christian?

I guess at this point I've gotten comfortable with believing that God didn't send his son to earth solely to protect embryos.

 

But it is an important moral consideration as far as how we treat one another. One of them.

BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: Liberal AND Christian?

I read your link and what struck me is the author is saying that "Ike put in God we trust on money in the 50`s and that`s when the rightwing took over religion"

 

...well the funny thing is from Washington to Ike, when the country was supposedly "liberal and immoral and such a good country then" the country was actually moral then our grandparents and those before them practiced Christian law such as hanging murderers, rapists and cattle thieves.  Drunks didn`t have welfare to go on, without the kindness of strangers, their slothfulness would`ve resulted in them and their families starving too death...I could go on but you get the idea.

 

Okay after the so-called religious Right took over, you got all this supposed "good stuff" like welfare, equal rights, civil rights, homosexual stuff, drug addicts, athiests, pornography...all kinds of crap.  That`s what we got AFTER "In God we trust" was put on money....okay, take me BACK before the rightwing religious zealots took over, America was a better place!

schnurrbart
Veteran Advisor

Re: Liberal AND Christian?

If your religion OKs discrimination, you need a new religion!

BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: Liberal AND Christian?

You can not serve 2 masters, you must discriminate against evil.  There is no compromising with evil as the liberals want to do.

schnurrbart
Veteran Advisor

Re: Liberal AND Christian?

And I suppose cutting food stamps, welfare and school lunches is hunky dory!!