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wehav
Senior Contributor

Liberals working to get another sub group of voters

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/26/the-case-for-treating-animals-as-humans.html?utm_so...

 

The effort continues to create more liberal voters that need help in the booth.

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BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: Liberals working to get another sub group of voters

Be interesting to get Canuck`s take on this. As liberal as he is on everything, he kind of parts company on animal welfare issues and doesn`t seem to be against big big big industrial agriculture of cramming pigs and chickens tight into buildings.

NewAgJudge
Senior Contributor

Re: Liberals working to get another sub group of voters

 

 

He can still learn.

Canuck_2
Senior Contributor

Re: Liberals working to get another sub group of voters

People have lost touch with the reality of life and how it developed.

Humans are an animal that developed as an omnivore and some humans try to deny that and treat all animals as equal to humans. Since plants are only slightly different in the gentics of 'animals' then why are plants not also considered for the same treatment as animals?

 

While some people want chickens to be 'free range' it is a fact that laying hens in the small cages have less mortality than those in large pens and the most mortality comes with 'free range'.

Animals raised in commercial so called 'factory farms' are typically cared for better than animals were in the 'good old days' with balance rations and good parasite prevention, both of which are impossible to have in the old style facilities that so many activists seem to think are desirable.

 

A little rational thought should sort that out, just as those who have decided that dogs should not be used for meat.

I may not want to eat dog meat but that does not mean that dog meat is not as nutritious as any other meat and those who enjoy it should be able to eat it if they want. Horse meat is another example.

 

Rational thought is thrown out when people just believe something and want to force everyone else to live like they have decided everyone should live.

 

As the article pointed out many people have now taken pets into their homes as a member of the family and in our present society with lots of processed food available in the local store where people never have to get their hands dirty by peeling a vegetable or eviscerating a chicken for dinner reality has been lost on them.

BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: Liberals working to get another sub group of voters

As a Christian, I believe that man was given dominion over animals and we get to use them as food, but we need to treat them ethically and humanely.  yes, we trade livestock as a "commodity" but they really are not a commodity, they have feelings, they have pain, they bleed.  If you ever saw little pigs running in the pasture, they are truly having fun, if you look closely they do have smiles on their faces, their mom the sow loves taking care of them and with fight for her brood.   One day the "Lion will lie down with the Lamb".

 

But Canuck, how would you like to live your entire life never seeing the sunshine or fresh air?   I would suggest go to a hog confinment and spend the night in a pen of 30 market sized hogs and make your own little 8 square foot space to lay down and sleep the night, then report back to us how you liked that?   Or go into a chicken house with all the smells and noise and spend just one night in a cage were you can`t turn around or stretch your arms and then report back to us how wonderful that was.   And I`m not even bringing up the human treatment that you may or may not get from some detached worker that takes their frustration out on you.

Red Steele
Veteran Advisor

Re: Liberals working to get another sub group of voters

I thought about putting up three confinement barns at one point, but ruled it out. Living life above

your waste is pretty abhorrent, even for animals destined for the slaughterhouse.

 

Funny how $$$$$ will "trump" even the conscience of a liberal, though.

schnurrbart
Veteran Advisor

Re: Liberals working to get another sub group of voters

Do you really think that conservatives don't fall victim to what you say in your last sentence??  You truly are wasted!

NewAgJudge
Senior Contributor

Re: Liberals working to get another sub group of voters

 

 

Well said.

 

Agreeing with you scares me Smiley Very Happy

schnurrbart
Veteran Advisor

Re: Liberals working to get another sub group of voters

Are you competing with ba to see who can come up with the stupiest theory of the decade award???

BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: Liberals working to get another sub group of voters

It should, but i don`t think we`ll make a habit of it  🙂

 

What I think you need to understand is Canuck and Gough Whitlam are a few rungs up the ladder of Marxism than some of you domestic ameture socialists Look at the way they treat animals in communist China and the former Soviet Union, I`m sure I don`t have to go into details.  But those a little higher up the ladder than you guys are in on the end game of control, all this domestic liberalism of equal rights and animal rights is tapestry that gets lost rapidly the further up the ladder you get.