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sdholloway56
Senior Advisor

Like Italy?

I’m guessing that Dennison actually listened to scientists for the setting of the death bar at 200k for declaring victory over the justacold.

Although there’s no end in sight on the Italian plateau- just keeps grinding out high 3 figures every day and probably will for weeks.

Maybe we’ve done enough to keep infections in this round under a few million. But the death rate will probably rise well above 2 pct. as cases age.

 

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jennys_mn
Veteran Advisor

Re: Like Italy?

And the minions of Trump on here, just go about their everyday life of praising Trump, telling their lies, and thinking nothing of the consequences that their support of Trump already has had.  

BA I see has slunk back over to the marketing page, where he can get his accolades, and use his little demeaning Trump nicknames to posters on this site - that’s what I got kicked off for, but I guess the “special Ed” posters, like always, can do whatever they want.

went to Red Wing yesterday to get my finished car siding - at 1 PM the drive up at McDonalds was about 8 cars deep in both lanes.  Not sure how any fast food place is really insuring the integrity of the food - they still have people preparing it - unless they are dressed up like the front like hospital workers, to make sure they are not spreading the virus.  It only takes one....

With MN only 22% shut down, it doesn’t seem like it would be enough to make an appreciable difference.  Maybe it is since you took the real high risk stuff off the table.  But I certainly know that every venture I take away from my property, is a potential death sentence.

I need to make at least one more trip to to get the rest of my boards - fellow says he’ll have the other half done in a few days.  I need to get the material out of his shop - maybe next Monday again.

ive quit watching the Trump briefings - all they are now is a stand up political rally - it’s time the news organizations drop him and the human q-tip, and just show Fachi - he’s the only one that really counts.

Jen

jennys_mn
Veteran Advisor

Re: Like Italy?

Oh - and like Italy - but worse.  We have the worst curve in the world going - and far too late to stop it.  Hospitals are being over run - oh - but it’s a big city problem!!   Wait....

Jen

sdholloway56
Senior Advisor

Re: Like Italy?

We’re doing a pretty good job of staying out of harms way. Of course we’re very fortunate to have location and circumstances that make it relatively easy. Think I’ll make the weekly run to senior hours at the grocery shortly.

Daughter is 11 days into 14 day self quarantine, so that is good.

BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: Like Italy?

https://pjmedia.com/trending/what-the-media-isnt-telling-you-about-the-united-states-coronavirus-cas...  

 

snip:   

When President Trump said this week that the United States had done more testing than South Korea, USA Today was quick to fact-check his claim by pointing out, "The United States population is more than six times the size of South Korea’s. On a per-capita basis, South Korea is testing far more of its citizens than the U.S." In this case, the media attempted to use a per capita comparison against Trump. CNN and MSNBC each made similar fact-checks.

On Thursday, the New York Times made a big fuss over the fact that more than 81,321 Americans have been infected with the coronavirus, which is "more cases than China, Italy or any other country has seen."

 

According to their report, the United States, following "a series of missteps," is now "the epicenter of the pandemic."

But, is it really?

China's confirmed cases topped out at around 80,000, but, as PJM's Victoria Taft noted, China reportedly stopped conducting tests in order to show the world they've contained the spread of the v.... So, comparing any country to China at this point is useless.

 

 

In a visual presentation titled "Where the U.S. Stands Now on Coronavirus Testing" the New York Times even used whole numbers for confirmed cases in one slide, and then in the next slide used per capita numbers for testing, in order to paint the United States in the worst light.

 

SLIDE 1: This week, the number of coronavirus tests in the United States surpassed those in South Korea and Italy — two countries that had been testing more aggressively.

 

SLIDE 2: But the United States, which has the most known coronavirus cases in the world, continues to lag in tests per capita, according to an analysis of estimates from the COVID Tracking Project. Both South Korea and Italy have much smaller populations than the U.S.

 

So, why weren't the case numbers adjusted to show them on a per capita basis, the same way testing was?

Well, let's take a look and see why.

Here are the top six countries by confirmed cases (based on the case numbers from the Center for Systems Science and Engineering at Johns Hopkins University as of 2:30 pm ET March 27) in descending order:

 

USA (94,238)

 

 

Italy (86,498)

 

 

Spain (64,059)

 

 

Germany (49,344)

 

 

Iran (32,332)

 

 

France (29,593)

 

Now, here are the top six countries by confirmed cases per million people (based on population numbers from the CIA World Fact Book) in descending order:

 

 

Italy (1386.13)

 

 

Spain (1280.78)

 

 

Germany (615.57)

 

 

France (436.17)

 

 

Iran (380.72)

 

 

USA (283.30)

 

Well, isn't that interesting? The United States' confirmed cases per capita are the lowest of the top six countries affected by the virus. Now, there are some who would argue that the United States testing lags behind that of other countries. If we want to assume that there is a discrepancy in testing between countries and that selection bias in testing undercounts the infection rate, then the number of coronavirus deaths is a more accurate way of measuring the impact of the pandemic in each country. So, let's look at total confirmed deaths in descending order.

 

Italy (9,134)

 

 

Spain (4,934)

 

 

Iran (2,378)

 

 

France (1,698)

 

 

USA (1,438)

 

 

Germany (304)

 

Germany looks pretty good compared to everyone else, doesn't it? But, let's look at confirmed deaths per million people in descending order, to see how that changes things:

 

 

Italy (146.37)

 

 

Spain (98.65)

 

 

Iran (28.00)

 

 

France (25.03)

 

 

USA (4.32)

 

 

Germany (3.79)

 

Interesting indeed! Germany and the United States have significantly better coronavirus death rates per capita than Italy, Spain, Iran and France. A lot better. This is why the media avoids per capita measurements for confirmed cases, but conveniently remembered when it wanted to fact-check Trump's testing numbers.

The media wants you to believe that the coronavirus in the United States is spiraling out of control the way it did in Italy. Fact check: it isn't.

 

 

 

sdholloway56
Senior Advisor

Re: Like Italy?

There’s no what about in your what about.

US is clearly on a horrendous trajectory and all the puppy whining in the world won’t change it.

In fact you, Rush, Hannity et al have already made it worse.

BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: Like Italy?

3 months from now, you`re going to be scrambling for excuses, I`ll give you a freebee "Dennison just got lucky" Start coming up with spin now, because the truth won`t work in your narrative.

jennys_mn
Veteran Advisor

Re: Like Italy?

Another BS post BA - you’re worthless propaganda fails to take into account that we are a month at least behind these others countries on the coasts - and are JUST STARTING the uptick in infections in inland America.  

You’ve been wrong from the start - just like Trump.  And you just use more lies to cover the facts.

You and your PINO and his minions on here, have cost American lives.  And you care nothing about that - and will deny all day that you called it JUST The damn FLU!!!

And - I have a name and a handle on here .  I don’t call you by some childish name.  I resent you giving me one of your childish names like Trump does to all his adversaries.  I got kicked off here for it - oh - but I forgot - you always win...what a pile of crap...

You may be an “Honored” Advisor on this site, but you are certainly not “honorable” - You, like Trump, think you can dictate Honor and Respect.  You, and him, don’t seem to realize those attributes are earned, and DON’T COME WITH THE TITLE!!!

Jen

sdholloway56
Senior Advisor

Re: Like Italy?

BA will win because he’ll move the goalposts as many times as it takes, employ an army of straw men, false equivalencies and references to fake authorities/attacks on real ones.

Then he’ll play the victim before moving on to the aw shucks routine.

jennys_mn
Veteran Advisor

Re: Like Italy?

Yeah - that is EXACTLY what he does.  Like the PINO - deserving VERY LITTLE respect - at best....

Jen