Looks like about 1% Covid death rate

[sam1wiseone]

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@sdholloway56 wrote:

Of course timeframe is the key variable.

Eventually everyone will catch it, be vaccinated or both.

But between higher susceptibility and much higher mortality, many more unvaxxed will die.

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no indication anywhere that there is less susceptibility.  The opposite, just maybe.

[sdholloway56]

Pfizer is around 60% effective against infection, Moderna probably somewhat higher at the moment.

90-95% effective against hospitalization and death.

[sam1wiseone]

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@bruce MN wrote:

Widely read and shared.

Try Google:

“One in 5000.”

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Ah.  so i did that.  you didn't say 1 in 5000 / day in cherry picked counties.

[bruce MN]

Didn’t need to.Not cherry picked. Delineated as to rates of vaccination.

Chxxxt there’s a difference between being a plain old numnuts and an evil driven disingenuous pxxxk.

[sam1wiseone]

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@bruce MN wrote:

Didn’t Ned to Not cherry picked. Delineated as to rates of vaccination.

Chxxxt there’s a difference between being a plain old numnuts and an evil driven disingenuous pxxxk.

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Might want to look into countries with their worst outbreaks post high vax rate.

[sdholloway56]

BTW, Israel is about 28% under 15, vs. 18% for the US or UK.

Interesting factoid to know for a number of reasons. Looks like the Hasids and settlers have been doing the yoeman's work.

[sam1wiseone]

if only 1 in 5000 could get it nations like iceland with a high vax rate would be illustrating herd immunity instead of having there worst outbreak.

[sdholloway56]

That's not what he said.

[rickgthf]

  Granted there is a difference between susceptibility and vulnerability to severe disease but it's a well-established fact that currently, 90-95% of the people in-hospital with covid are/ were unvaccinated.  It is entirely unreasonable to believe that vaccinated persons are just as susceptible, or more susceptible as the unvaccinated.

    In fact, there is data that says just the opposite: https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2021/08/04/fully-vaccinated-half-as-likely-to-catch-delta-co...

   Sam, you need to stop this nonsense, it makes you look crazy or worse evil.  Granted, Delta is not like the original strain of coronavius-19, it's more infectious and more dangerous but current vaccines are still quite effective at preventing infection, serious illness, and death.

  Stop trying to convince your simple-minded friends otherwise.  You're being dishonest.

[bruce MN]

The primary dishonesty is that for her m it has absolutely nothing to do with disease or healthcare. 

Just a feather that floated by and stuck to his balloon.

God only knows what else these people might freely adopt. 

Ask Mark Rich’s family, I guess.