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Marcus Bachmann’s Gay ‘Cure’

This is the reason that we no longer go to any of Bachmann's stores here in Minneapolis:

 

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Marcus Bachmann’s Gay ‘Cure’
A hidden-camera exposé proved that Michele Bachmann’s husband practices a controversial therapy aimed at turning gays straight. Michelle Goldberg on the fallout for 2012.

 

 
Michelle Goldberg

MICHELLE GOLDBERG

07.10.11 10:31 PM ET

 



Michelle Goldberg
MICHELLE GOLDBERG

07.10.11 10:31 PM ET


In 2006, a story about Michele Bachmann in the Minneapolis City Pages delved into husband Marcus’s involvement in the ex-gay movement. The piece quoted Curt Prins, an attendee at a conservative conference where Marcus, a therapist who runs a Christian counseling practice, gave a presentation, “The Truth About the Homosexual Agenda,” arguing that homosexuality is both a choice and a threat. As a finale, he brought up three people, including a prominent ex-gay activist named Janet Boynes, who testified about leaving homosexuality behind. “One of them said, 'If I was born gay, then I'll have to be born again,'" Prins recalled. "The crowd went crazy."


Yet when the City Pages reporter asked Marcus if his clinic performs so-called reparative therapy—a widely discredited technique meant to turn gay people straight—Marcus denied it. And over the years he has kept denying it, despite plenty of evidence that both he and Michele are deeply committed to the idea that homosexuality can be cured.


If there was any doubt that he was lying, it disappeared on Friday, when The Nation broke news of an investigation by Truth Wins Out, a group devoted to combating the ex-gay movement. “Undeniably, 100 percent, the Bachmann clinic practices reparative therapy, which tries to cure gay people of their homosexuality,” says Wayne Besen, Truth Wins Out’s founder.

 

Responding to queries about Bachmann’s clinic from reporters—myself among them—Besen recently put out a call for former Bachmann patients, and a young man named Andrew Ramirez responded. As Ramirez told The Nation, after he came out in 2004, the summer before his senior year, his evangelical stepfather had dragged him to Bachmann & Associates. There, a therapist told him he should renounce his sexual orientation. “He basically said being gay was not an acceptable lifestyle in God’s eyes,” said Ramirez.


To prove that reparative therapy continues at Bachmann’s clinic to this day, Truth Wins Out sent a 26-year-old staffer, John Becker, to pose as a patient there. Armed with hidden cameras, Becker attended five sessions with therapist Timothy Wiertzema, who assured him that it’s possible to rid himself of same-sex attractions. “I think it’s possible to be totally free of them,” Wiertzema says in a transcript of the sessions provided to The Daily Beast. “[I]t’s happened to a number of people. I don’t know how many, but…that’s for sure.”


A key tenet of ex-gay ideology is that there’s no such thing as homosexuality, only homosexual feelings and acts. Echoing this idea, Wiertzema told Becker, “[W]e’re all heterosexuals, but we have different challenges.” To overcome his particular challenges, Wiertzema instructed Becker to attend the ex-gay Outpost Ministry, to “further develop your own sense of masculinity,” and to cultivate an attraction to females by paying attention to beautiful women and acknowledging “the fact, like okay, God made her this way, you know, that’s awesome.”


In the transcripts, Wiertzema comes off as caring and not particularly dogmatic. When Becker asks him for advice about a possible invitation to a friend’s same-sex wedding, the therapist says that, in his place, he wouldn’t go, but he leaves the choice up to his client. (Should Becker decide to attend, Wiertzema suggests, he should bring a straight, Christian friend along to hold him accountable.) He clearly means well.


But reparative therapy is dangerous no matter how good the intentions behind it. It doesn’t work, and it exacerbates the self-loathing that leads gays and lesbians to seek it out in the first place. According to the American Psychiatric Association, “The potential risks of ‘reparative therapy’ are great, including depression, anxiety and self-destructive behavior, since therapist alignment with societal prejudices against homosexuality may reinforce self-hatred already experienced by the patient.” The American Psychological Association condemned reparative therapy in a 1997 resolution, affirming the principle that “psychologists do not make false or deceptive statements concerning...the scientific or clinical basis for...their services.”


So Bachmann’s clinic, which has received $137,000 in Medicaid funds, is subjecting people to psychologically damaging techniques with no scientific basis. Wiertzema’s approach is not unique there. Indeed, the clinic sells copies of Janet Boynes book Called Out: A Former Lesbian’s Discovery of Freedom, which argues, “Homosexuality, like any sin, separates us from God, for He cannot tolerate sin in His presence.” Becker photographed stacks of the books in the Bachmann & Associates office. Hanging above them was a typed endorsement from Marcus Bachmann saying, “Janet is a friend. I recommend this book as she speaks to the heart of the matter and gives practical insights of truth to set people free.”

Neither Bachmann nor many of his therapists, it’s important to note, have serious psychological training. His Ph.D. comes from the Union Institute, a Cincinnati-based correspondence school; in 2002, it was cited by the Ohio Board of Regents, which said, “Expectations for student scholarship at the doctoral level were not as rigorous as is common for doctoral work.” As Politico has reported, he’s not licensed with any of the boards that certify mental-health professionals in Minnesota, one of the few states that allows unlicensed people to practice mental-health care. Similarly, Wiertzema’s M.A. comes from Argosy University, a for-profit diploma mill.


Why does any of this matter? Bachmann may be dishonest about his practice, but he’s not the one running for president. Yet in describing herself as a small-business owner, Michele Bachmann clearly takes partial credit for Bachmann & Associates, and so its activities reflect on her. Besides, she’s made it clear that Marcus exerts authority over her, telling one church audience that she bowed to her husband’s instructions to study tax law because “the Lord says be submissive. Wives, you are to be submissive to your husbands.” That means his character and beliefs are more germane to her candidacy than those of other political spouses. He’s the head of the woman who wants to be the head of country. He’s also a man with dubious qualifications running a clinic whose counseling techniques can ruin lives.

 

Reference to Bruce_MN article:

 

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/michele-bachmann-2016-last-election-demographic-change

 

I don't think that I would put any money on Ms. Bachmann's claims to our last election.  Unless, of course, Duckie wins....then there just might be same basis for her Last Election rhetoric....

 

Jen

23 Replies
Red Steele
Veteran Advisor

Re: Marcus Bachmann’s Gay ‘Cure’

You no longer go to counseling at the Bachmann clinic?

TMI

 

or are you boycotting the Bachman (one N) Nursery stores

because the name sounds the same?

jennys_mn
Veteran Advisor

Re: Marcus Bachmann’s Gay ‘Cure’

Thank you Red, for pointing that out. It was my mistake. I see on the Internet, Bachman's Flowers and Gifts in the past made a point of distancing themselves from Michele Bachmann, and for good reason. It cost them customers.

I was too sick a few years ago when she got in office to care one way or the other. Someone told me they were related. I didn't do the research myself to see, because, like I said, I didn't care. And I hate politics anyway.

I have to thank you Republicans though, for polarizing the Democratic Party behind Secretary Cinton. I, who has never placed a political sign or have ever given to a politician, or have done canvassing for one, am thinking about doing it this year. I even signed up to help her campaign when I was at the MN State Fair.

If you Republicans have managed to get me irritated enough to give away my hard money to a candidate, and you have, then I am certain there are many more in this country that hated politics, that will be casting a vote this fall.

I've done my research on this one. Believe me!!!! Secretary Clinton gets my vote.

And reading the letters to the editor of the Minneapolis Star Tribune, it appears many, many feel as I do.

I made a mistake about Bachman - but I'm not about Trump. Bloomberg has it right - Trump is nothing more than a con man, and if anyone should be wearing prison stripes in the campaign, it is him. His crimes don't have faceless victims, like you think they do.

Jen
AllenJwi
Senior Contributor

Re: Marcus Bachmann’s Gay ‘Cure’

If possible you think this is a bad thing??

Milligan Hay - Iowa d:^)
Veteran Advisor

Re: Marcus Bachmann’s Gay ‘Cure’

Just ignore the mental case Hiliary "plant". She is just another Colin Norris character. Sooner or later, will implode and go away, just like the Commie from NSW, Oz. 

bruce MN
Advisor

Good catch

Caught that as well .  Have pointed this difference out to a few people overtime, Both sides, after a similar presumption had been made.

 

Now no matter how it is spelled, Shelly is making some bold predictions in her advisory capacity within the Trump campaign.

 

http://www1.cbn.com/thebrodyfile/archive/2016/09/01/only-on-the-brody-file-michele-bachmann-says-thi...

jennys_mn
Veteran Advisor

Re: Good catch

Mr. Hay, you really need to get some help.  If I am a plant for Secretary Clinton - prove it.  It should be easy enough for a person of your intelligence.  Prove it.  And if you can't, then stop saying I am a plant, when I am telling you right now, that I am not.  

 

I have taken a battery of psychological exams over the years because of my job as an air Traffic Controller.  Maybe they need to institute those same exams for someone who drives a bus....

 

Jen

jennys_mn
Veteran Advisor

Re: Good catch

As far as being ignored, do you really think I care if someone responds to what I write here or not?  Many times, I like it when they don't, like my first Daily TRUMPetour.  I sorta liked it that no one responded.  I took it as there was nothing there that could be disputed.  Because it was (almost) all stuff that Mr. Trump had said at his Arizona stop, after meeting with the Mexican President.  Where, by the way, he looked like a wimp, and wimped out on any really meaningful discussions.

 

Just like today when he meets with the black minister Bishop Wayne Jackson in Detroit.  What a joke that is - canned questions and responses.  The Republicans can't take a chance on Trump doing anything on his own, because of what he might say.  And for just reason.  He can't hold back his mouth, and his mouth opens before he really thinks things out.  

 

He's a puppet out on the campaign trail right now.  It is how I see him if he gets elected.  And maybe it's better that way.  It might be the only way we avoid WW#3.

 

Jen

 

 

NewAgJudge
Senior Contributor

??

 

Is that a serious Question ??

 

 

Sigh.......

 

1- It is NOT posssible

 

 

2- Every Authentic Medical Board has come out against it has it is Devastatingly harmful.

 

Many states have now  banned the practice. Iowa recently rejected policy that would ban

the practice saying;  " Well it's really not happening here that we know of "

 

 

Gays, all of LGBTQ's are not to be fixed. They are to be admired.

 

hardnox
Advisor

Re: Good catch

According to the Urban Dictionary, whacko and wacko are both acceptable.