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Snooky1953
Senior Contributor

Re: I don't know

Y'all are a real hoot.  Couldn't less who you think I am but I would care about what you think makes a "gun nut" liberal or rightwing.  MY definition of a gun nut is someone who thinks all things can  be settled with a gun and doesn't worry about who gets killed as long as they have the ability to buy and use any gun, any time they want.  Because a person has a few guns doesn't in itself make that person a "nut".  I don't want guns to go away but I do think this country needs to address the problem of people who are not playing with a full deck having ready access to guns.  It isn't simple and will take some things that may inconvenience some folks (gunnuts) but it has to happen.  I don't think the anti-gun folks have all the straight dope either but I also think people ike you do either.

Snooky1953
Senior Contributor

Re: Try again Neb

You have never heard that from me.  Don't think I ever said that "he wasn't bound by DC laws".

man of steel
Senior Contributor

Re: I don't know


@Snooky1953 wrote:

I don't want guns to go away but I do think this country needs to address the problem of people who are not playing with a full deck having ready access to guns.


So far, the only things gun control advocates have been suggesting is what many think infringes upon the rights of others.

 


@Snooky1953 wrote:

 I don't think the anti-gun folks have all the straight dope either but I also think people ike you do either.



What "straight dope" am I lacking?

 

 

Snooky1953
Senior Contributor

Re: I don't know

What exactly do you think they are suggesting?  They want the slaughter of innocents to cease.  You don't think there is a probelm other than you think someone is trying to take away your guns.

Nebrfarmr
Veteran Advisor

Really, you are making this too easy

I can't figure out, if you choose to ignore actual facts, or if you are like Reagan once said, 'The problem with Liberals, is not that they don't know anything, but that so much of what they know, isn't true' (or something to that effect)

 

Here is a snippet from a Q&A website about DC gun laws:

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/guns/2012/aug/15/miller-q-dcs-gun-laws/

 

Q: Is it legal to carry a concealed firearm in DC?

A: No, the nation’s capital does not recognize the right to bear arms.  It is illegal to have a gun outside the home in D.C. The city was forced in 2008 to recognize the right to keep arms when the Supreme Court ruled that the 30-year total ban on handguns was unconstitutional in the Heller decision. 

Q: Does DC accept CCW from other states? Which ones?

A: No concealed carry permits can be used in D.C. It’s important for visitors to the nation’s capital to know this so that they don’t get arrested for an innocent mistake. It happens too often.

Under no circumstances can a non-resident of the District bring a gun into the city. Army 1st Seargent Matthew Corrigan spent two weeks in jail for unregistered guns. Read his story here. 

Residents can have guns in their homes if each one is registered with the city. Click here to read my new guide to registering firearms in D.C. 

Also keep in mind that ammunition has to be registered so non-residents can be arrested for this, as happened in the case of Army Specialist Adam Mecker (click to read his story). The city council is moving to make it a civil instead of a criminal offense for visitors to get caught with unregistered guns or ammunition, but that bill has not had a hearing yet. Click to read more about that change. 

 

 

There, I hope I imphasized the pertinant part well enough, so that you can see it.  An Army officer, who had NO gun on him, was arrested, for carring ammunition, that he had not registered.  So, as I stated wayyyy back when, in the alleged felonies:

Possessing a non-registered gun

ans non-registered ammunition

 

 

 

 

Nebrfarmr
Veteran Advisor

Re: I don't know

So, you think Red and I are in favor of the slaughter of innocents?

 

I find that ironic, that you are arruing that we are on the wrong side, for not wanting more anti-gun laws, yet you are making excuse, after excuse, for what is looking more and more (as I look deeper into it) like an employee of the liberal Media Matters, has committed numerous felonies.

Not only are you downplaying the commission of these crimes, you are arguing that those gun laws that were broken do not exist.

I guess, if you are of the opinion, that gun laws do not exist, that maybe you would be in favor of some, but that is not what I'd call an informed opinion.

Nebrfarmr
Veteran Advisor

Again, too easy

A couple posts above this one, you said: (and I will put the entire post here, so I can't be accused of taking out of context, and highlight the part I will refer to).

 

quote

Of course it is.  Never said it wasn't.  I never even heard of this brock guy and only vaguely heard of media matters.  Iamonly saying that giving money to an employee to buy a gun to fulfil the requirements of his jobasI see it is not against the law.  Certainly not unless you are a citizen of DC and just having such gun IN DC is not in itself illegal UNLESS you are a lawful citizen of DC.  I don't know where this guy lives and no one here has stated it either.

end quote

 

 

Now, to gun law Q&A atricle from the Washington Times, with all sorts of highlighted links, if you want to read in detai:  Make sure you read the part, where it says, 'under NO CIRCUMSTANCES can a non-resident bring a gun, into DC.   Heck, even possessing the ammo for a gun, by a non-resident, is a criminal offense, there is a link to an Army officer arrested for that very charge.

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/guns/2012/aug/15/miller-q-dcs-gun-laws/

 

The shooting at the Family Research Council in Washington on Wednesday raised many questions about the guns laws in the District of Columbia.  As people continued to tweet me questions, I decided to answer them all in one post. Below are your questions, followed by my responses. Feel free to elaborate in the comment section at the bottom. 

Q: Is it legal to carry a concealed firearm in DC?

A: No, the nation’s capital does not recognize the right to bear arms.  It is illegal to have a gun outside the home in D.C. The city was forced in 2008 to recognize the right to keep arms when the Supreme Court ruled that the 30-year total ban on handguns was unconstitutional in the Heller decision. 

Q: Does DC accept CCW from other states? Which ones?

A: No concealed carry permits can be used in D.C. It’s important for visitors to the nation’s capital to know this so that they don’t get arrested for an innocent mistake. It happens too often.

Under no circumstances can a non-resident of the District bring a gun into the city. Army 1st Seargent Matthew Corrigan spent two weeks in jail for unregistered guns. Read his story here. 

Residents can have guns in their homes if each one is registered with the city. Click here to read my new guide to registering firearms in D.C. 

Also keep in mind that ammunition has to be registered so non-residents can be arrested for this, as happened in the case of Army Specialist Adam Mecker (click to read his story). The city council is moving to make it a civil instead of a criminal offense for visitors to get caught with unregistered guns or ammunition, but that bill has not had a hearing yet. Click to read more about that change. 

 
 
 
Snooky1953
Senior Contributor

Re: Really, you are making this too easy

I guess I'm a felon then because I drove through DC last year on my way to NY with a loaded pistol in my possession.  You win.  Wpnder what he did to let the police know he had unregistered ammo in his possession.  I guess you go to the police and tell them you just bought 50 rds.  Then you go to the range and shoot 25 rds.  Then you go back to the police and tell them todeduct25 off your total because you shot them.  I'm sure they do all the paperwork aren't you?

Snooky1953
Senior Contributor

Re: I don't know

You do know what "make an ass out of u and me"  right  You are assuming something I didn't  say.  I only said that steel thinks the only problem is his inconvience.  Criminals will always have guns, blah, blah.  What do you want?  Should I be jumping up and down and screaming that theseguys should be hung up by their thumbs?  I said they screwed up and if they really did all that, they should go to jail.  It doen't change my thinking about what needs to be done and that is to dosomething to stop unstable people from getting guns and shooting people!

Snooky1953
Senior Contributor

Re: Again, too easy

I'll just say this--it isn't as black and white as you make out.

 

From DC gun laws:     "A nonresident participating in any lawful recreational firearm-related activity in the District, or on his/her way to or from such activity in another jurisdiction, may possess a firearm if the firearm is unloaded and, if transported in a vehicle, is not readily accessible or directly accessible from the passenger compartment, or, if there is no compartment separate from the driver’s compartment, is in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.  If not transported in a vehicle, the firearm must be unloaded, inside a locked contained, and separate from ammunition.  The person should be able to “exhibit proof” that he is on his way to or from such activity, and that his/her possession of the firearm is lawful in the jurisdiction in which he/she resides."