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BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Message to Left from Rightwinger. Attn Bruce,Nox

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verbatime
Senior Contributor

Re: Message to Left from Rightwinger. Attn Bruce,Nox

So true... it's like impossible to go against the fed if they charge you with something... doen't matter if your guilty or not it's the battle that kills you.

 

"The problem is, the way the world works and the way we WISH the world worked are not always congruent. Attempting to renovate a criminal system while acting within the rigged confines of that system is futile, not to mention delusional. Corrupt oligarchies adhere to the standards of civility only as long as they feel the need to maintain the illusion of the moral high ground. Once they have enough control, the mask always comes off, the rotten core is revealed, and immediate violence against dissent commences."

 

 

 

Better read BA's link..... fellas

GreaTOne_65
Senior Contributor

Re: Message to Left from Rightwinger. Attn Bruce,Nox

Why? It's just more extremist right wing bull$hit.

verbatime
Senior Contributor

Re: Message to Left from Rightwinger. Attn Bruce,Nox

OK don't read it and just stay uninformed Mr GreaTOne.

Nebrfarmr
Veteran Advisor

Re: Message to Left from Rightwinger. Attn Bruce,Nox

It isn't 'right wing', it is Conservative.

 

If you read it, you would see that the author does not like the actions of Bush, at all.   However, he does question why Obama is continuing (and in some cases expanding) those very policies that the left derided Bush for, and pretty much without any protest.



A quote from the article  Would you agree with what I boldened?:

 

Neo-Cons are not conservative.  They are in fact socialist in their methods, and they always expand government spending and power while reducing constitutional protections.

hardnox604008
Advisor

Re: Message to Left from Rightwinger. Attn Bruce,Nox

No great shakes on the Dem party, for sure.

 

But as to where to go- there probably are some pure constitutional libertarians, maybe this guy is one. But the majority are folks who were near rapturous when GWB was rolled out as the perfect candidate from AM talk radio and then, when it all went bad and the **bleep** crowed, they never knew him.

 

So many are sitting out in libertarian purgatory while holding onto the same belief set (maybe even more extreme) about our history  and about science, economics etc. 

 

It may be unfortunate that Lincoln freed the slave but it is a 150 year old reality they're going to have to come to terms with- perhaps likewise that we left the gold standard, apologies to true Paulites.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

bruce MN
Advisor

Re: Message to Left from Rightwinger. Attn Bruce,Nox

Finally got a chance to read it.

 

As nox says, lots of poxes infesting the Democrat party.  Not sure why you addressed it directly to the two of us as I'd offer that we have been the most critical of that particular party and the least likely among those here who openly admit to generally voting against neoconservative and bankster coddling Republicans,  To me it is simple math...the Dems surely have their share of of them (see the DLC bunch and Dem neocons like Lieberman) but the GOP outnumbers them astronomically.  I'd offer that he and I would be less likely  to summarily defend the administration among those here who identify as Democrats or liberals or progressives or whatever.

 

These people are kind of refreshing, but in no way is it a new phenomenon and to be descriptively truthful, they very well parallel the Occupy movement..This outfits nerds and geeks paralleling Occupy's hipsters and low level anarchists.  There were more localized young people's organizations such as this one in the 1960's in response to the counter culture that was growing then.  Middel class kids who didn't see anything wrong with having grown up in the dawn of the military industrial complex era and how that was playing out for the world and couldn't understand what their friends and classmates and cousins were so up in arms over.  Or were just simply repulsed by it on a cultural basis.

 

One tihng about it is that is very refreshing in that I don't see anything in the rhetoric that this young man lays out about religion.  So much of the rhetoric of the "adult" right winged movements is people of extreme fundamentalist or patriarchal movements who have glomped on to rightist protest movements and organizations and media vehicles having been played like rubes by the leadership and organizers of those movements who in reality could give a rat's about anybody's relgious views and have skillfully learn how to play them for it.  We've got one big time poster child for that here, and some others of varying degree.  Most notable of those violinists would be the Pete Peterson and Koch Bros funded outfits.

 

The other interesting thing is their organizing of and around barter.  I'd offer that as another striking parallel to something on "the left"  (Chr##t that's an abstraction), which would be the Bitcoin effort.  Look it up and you'll see what I mean.

 

Thanks for putting it up.  My guess is that they aren't among the most popular folks among the constituencies that the modern GOP is trying to cultivate.  Would  most likely be about as welcome at a platform shaping GOP caucus or convention as would be Code Pink.

 

 

hardnox604008
Advisor

Re: Message to Left from Rightwinger. Attn Bruce,Nox

If one had irrevocably come to the conclusions that he expresses then it make perfect sense to opt out and take care of yourself. Guns, gold, expatriation, all options are currently wide open.

 

Probably doesn't make a bit of sense to become a left, right or any kind of winger unless he's sandbagging and was really so inclined reviously.

BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: Message to Left from Rightwinger. Attn Bruce,Nox

Hey Bruce, this'll probably land up top, but the reason I bring it to you and Nox's attn is you 2 have at least a semblance of wanting to find the truth, many on the left on here are biased koolaide drinkers that would cut their left ball off if the DNC ordered it. I can see both you and Nox writing a similar letter to the left in a couple yrs, if you stay open-minded.
hardnox604008
Advisor

Re: Message to Left from Rightwinger. Attn Bruce,Nox

With all due respect, whatever truth you are tenuously in touch with is completely counteracted by your manlove with Wayne Lapierre.