Obummer -The Hater in the Sky

[KNAPPer]

"I see where Obama has killed another 12 civilians in Yemen with his drones. How many drone strike did Netanyahu order last night? How many terrorist rockets landed in the US over the last month?"

I was being sarcastic in response to your post. You seem to be saying we should not engage in drone attacks, yet you respond to my snark with "What is the difference between the US defending herself from terrorist and Israel defending herself from terrorist?"

It seems that on one hand you are supporting drone attacks and on the other you are condemning them. It's hard for you because you have to criticize Obama even if he is doing something you would support.

And to answer your question, the difference is geography in your specific example. Neither Canada or Mexico will be sending rockets over the border. Stick the US in Israel's location and the same would happen to us. Politics enter into the sum as well, but that's a whole different and more complex conversation.

[Jim B. in Iowa]

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@KNAPPer wrote:

"I see where Obama has killed another 12 civilians in Yemen with his drones. How many drone strike did Netanyahu order last night? How many terrorist rockets landed in the US over the last month?"

I was being sarcastic in response to your post. You seem to be saying we should not engage in drone attacks, yet you respond to my snark with "What is the difference between the US defending herself from terrorist and Israel defending herself from terrorist?"

It seems that on one hand you are supporting drone attacks and on the other you are condemning them. It's hard for you because you have to criticize Obama even if he is doing something you would support.

I beleive he's pointing out the left's blatant hypocrisy.  I would wager he really has no problem with drone attacks on terrorists, no matter who is pushing the button. 

And to answer your question, the difference is geography in your specific example. Neither Canada or Mexico will be sending rockets over the border. Stick the US in Israel's location and the same would happen to us. Politics enter into the sum as well, but that's a whole different and more complex conversation.

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September eleventh says hello. 

[schnurrbart]

As a point of distinction--Yes, the Jews are anti-Semitic since the word "Semite" applies to the Arab race also.

[Jim B. in Iowa]

If Ollie or someone similar was posting thousands upon thousands of posts about Arabs or Muslims, equating to more than 90% of their posts, are you telling me you would see him as anything but a racist?  John is beyond infatuation, borderline psychotic with his  Israel attacks...and to what end as far as Agforum is concerned, I cannot fathom.  And you lap it right up. 

He's not unlike those preachers that stand in crowded markets and scream at people to repent.  Do they both have a point...probably.  But its lost among the delivery.  He's likely  a smart guy (somewhere beneath the insanity), but he rarely posts about anything else.  I believe he's a strong libertarian...we almost never hear more than a childish "Obomney" type comment from him in this regard. 

When John decides to "unstick his button", then we can talk. 

[Jim B. in Iowa]

This has been tried before, to no avail:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism

"While the term's etymology might suggest that antisemitism is directed against all Semitic peoples, the term was coined in the late 19th century in Germany as a more scientific-sounding term for Judenhass ("Jew-hatred"),[2] and that has been its normal use since then.["

[schnurrbart]

Whether it was to no avail or not, it is true.

[kraft-t]

Jim.  We all are witnessing majoritty support of Isreal from people on these pages. The opposition to Isreali support is limited to a few responders. Why is it wrong to have one or two with a different point of view with one man offering most  most of the rebuttal  to a majority view point?

I guess I see johnaa as a lone voice in the forum, like Dennis Kucinich or Ron Paul might be in the congress. The needless american involvement in the middle east is a tragedy.

[bruce MN]

I didn't ask you to, but since you responded do you want to take a stab at the question I've asked of your collaborator in these discussions?  It seems apparent that he isn't going to.  Understandly, I suppose, for as I said above simply  "going there" blows up his entire schpeil.

Who is to say that the prophey may not be correct.  But defending it on a fabricated definition, thus making the argument a lie,  shows how really shaky someone's support for it can be.

[r3020]

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@bruce MN wrote:

I didn't ask you to, but since you responded do you want to take a stab at the question I've asked of your collaborator in these discussions?  It seems apparent that he isn't going to.  Understandly, I suppose, for as I said above simply  "going there" blows up his entire schpeil.

Who is to say that the prophey may not be correct.  But defending it on a fabricated definition, thus making the argument a lie,  shows how really shaky someone's support for it can be.

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[johnaa]

  Oh Jimmy you follow your Man crush 30's MO and add your cheap shots, while spewing Islamophobic propaganda.   You are just hiding behind lame excuses while throwing insults and ignorance based BS.   Get Real Jimbo

 You got so many excuses to not discuss the problems with the present reality of our Nation faces in the world.  When I point out how the Israeli fascists have joined forces with the neocons and are controlling our foreign policy you scream and whine about anti-semitism. 

  When I supply articles about how America's Jews and friends coming out in opposition to the Nuttiyahoo fascists, people who once rubber stamped and supported the lobby you whine and scream calling me anti-semite.

  When I post links to videos by Israelis telling about the real situation of apartheid and racism in Israel you whine and scream and call me a anti-semite.  Even when you refuse to watch the videos and comment of what is presented in them you insult me instead of relating your comments to the subject.

  When I post links to videos about the christian zionists who want to create a religious war and world war, who gleefully anticipate the destruction of the Dome of the Rock which most surely create a war and excuse for Israel to carry out the fanatics plans for using Israel's nucs to whip out the population of the surrounding Nations--- You continue to hide behind the anti-semite wall.

   You see Jimmy there are thousands of US troops tied up fighting a Tar Baby War which is weakening the USA.  A foreign power is in effective control of the US congress and government which is pushing the US and the world into a major war.  That is my major concern.

  There will be no chance for peace in the world until the Palestinians recieve Justice and Liberty.