Good post, BA...Don, actually read it

[Red Steele]

Even hypocrites should be able to understand the erosion of the US Dollar and how unfair it is to tax phantom gains due to inflation.

I bet your grandfather was one of the henchmen for FDR that went around shooting all the patriots that tried to hold unto their gold wealth back when the US Govt confiscated it.

Apples usually don't fall far from the tree. Or is that nuts?

[wehav]

gough whitlam,

Now that was funny.

"Same old same old.  Freedom and Liberty etc."

Who in the socialist world would want those things?

Certainly not you guys.

[idalivered]

Shouldn't the republicans be able to eliminate abortion, too? ThAt was ahot issue for many in the midwest for years, but seems to get little attention, now. At one point we had a republican prez and largely repub congress but missed their chance then.  Many I know would vote based on a candidate's position on just this one issue. Now's the time.

[gough whitlam]

Mate that is not the point.  What is the point is the reply he made.  All he wants is the same republican diatribe of bull**bleep** that he feels made the US "great".  He doesn't equality for his fellow man, he shows no compassion for anyone else.  He probably goes to church on Sunday too and prays to god he will get richer at the expense of someone else.   Just some simple observations I made after watching the same old comments about freedom and liberty some people spew all day. Hanging to the constitution and its every word is like never wanting to leave mum's teat. Get over all that rubbish and move on.  Your constitution is about as relevant as the Astor TV and the Morphy Richards toaster.

[r3020]

Mate, the US Constitution is much more relevant than some government please take care of me because I can't do it myself socialist from the land of a s s.

[kraft-t]

You don't think inflation hurts working folks? When their salaries won't buy as much as they used to they are still taxed.

Geez ! what a pitiful argument!

[bruce MN]

"So families making less than $40k do very little to service the national debt."

And do you ever think at all before you post? Who the he!! do you think those people are, and what is it that you think they do? They are the blankety blank consumer base, the people who work for peanuts to make the entire engine hum...well it used to hum...now it knocks and rattles (credit given). Take them out of the equation and then redo your math.

And after that potshot, take care not to call any other American an "elitist"...it'll tarnish your kettle. Gough had you nailed over night. What an insideous assertion. So did don:

http://community.agriculture.com/t5/Ag-Forum/Ok-GOP-ers-Conservatives-Tea-Partiers-Non-Socialist-Mar...

[BA Deere]

Bruce, to put things in context, Schurrbart was in favor of granting amnesty as a whiz bang way of getting a "new source" of taxes. My contention, that I stand by is $40k and below basically pays no fed tax outside Soc Sec, probably not much state tax outside sales tax. I`m absolutely not disparaging those in that group, as you said they are hard working and the foundation of the economy. However they are NOT some previously untapped resource of revenue, they can`t hardly make ends meet as it is. Some when Obama and the Democrats talk about lowering taxes on lower incomes they are full of malarky, that group pays "no tax" to cut......sorry it`s true.

[BA Deere]

Salaries are taxed after the deductions that go up with the cost of living almost yearly. So shouldn`t the standard deduction for a 80 acre farm be.....oh I don`t know  80 ACRES perhaps!!!!  The school systems are basically 100% funded by the farmer`s property taxes for Jesus Christ sake!!

[kraft-t]

That is local taxes not federal income taxes and your real estate taxes are deductable against your federal return.

If you don't want to pay real estate taxes, don't by real estate. It's as simple as that. Btw I pay gas tax, real estate tax, Should that excuse me from income taxes.

Your argument is ludicrous but typical for those that think their particular profit should go untaxed. You're special and should receive special status in the tax code.. BTW salaried folks pay real estate taxes on their homes and those homes do not throw off income like your farm land does.