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Re: On "keeping your doctor"....

Obamacare is working like a charm Bruce. Last year Anthem bilked me out of a months premium and now this year they won't take my money for a premium. And their customer service works so well too---somebody in the country of The Phillipines answers the phone. Can you call Barry and get this straightened out for me?

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Re: On "keeping your doctor"....

How did Obama care get into this conversation?.  The article isn't anything about it. 

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Re: On "keeping your doctor"....

He said you can keep your doctor

 

He said you can keep your policy

 

He said it would lower costs 

 

Nancy said she had to pass it to see what's in it

 

Your subject was "on keeping your doctor"  

 

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Re: On "keeping your doctor"....

I' think the idea of the article was, today, we have more and more "less educated people", doing what the "educated" people used to

do.  For example..years ago we did not have PA or ARNP....you saw a MD..but, we are "told" there are fewer doctors, so we

have to used "extenders". The theory is, most medicine is rather "routine", so someone of lesser training is able to

manage things.....the more advanced cases are left to the MD...I know of a national ranked diabetes center/clinic...only 1 MD

and several PA's and several ARNP, that people see, and then see dieticians...you might see the MD once a year or so.

 

BUT...it depends where you are at, there are places where there are plenty of doctors, and easy to get in...example.

I am needing to see an endocrinologist, rhumemotolgiest, neurologiest, and should see a cardiologist once a year.

On average I must wait 3 months, and travel 150 miles, to get something of "quality"...although there is a cardio closer.

 

on the other hand, i can call to mayo's and get in to see all the above, in less than a month !

 

our local practice has been sold out to a large regional hosp....which has been buying up clinic and small hospitals...

with the theory, they must be big in order to survive due to cuts...i have noticed our local doctors don't work much

past 5 pm anymore...no incentive...you work so many hours and get paid x, and that's it...no "investment" in patient

care anymore...so the big hosp tells you how to practice.....saying they are making little money....my responce is,

"oh really"....seems the head of the hospital is doing well....funny how they make bigger and bigger donations to their

"foundation"....yet they say they are making no money, and they have cut our services....just a bunch of lies.

 

it's getting anymore, i fear getting sick....not knowing what the local hospital and hospital will do...they have turned everyone

into robots...and there is palpated friction between the staff and management.

 

anymore, i am starting to feel i have to travel almost 250 miles to a metro area to get advanced care...or perhaps i should say

"qualifited care".

 

it's boiled down to money money money....two examples...you wonder why your insurance is so high...one of the problem is the

insurance co....they don't care, because they are making money hand over fist.

 

i have to test my blood several times a day....looking at the stuff on my insurance co website, the particular strip i use they

allow $103 for 100 strips....i got them friday....yep, that is what they did....well they give me two boxes of fifty, on the side of

the box was the price tag....$43....so that is $86....full pharmacy price....does anyone see anything wrong ?

since i am a member of a mutual, i called one day....since i am a member, i am a owner.....i brought up the point where

we, as a company, and shareholder, could save hundred of thousands of dollars each year if allowed to use 'generic" strips

they said i didn't understand medicine...(wrong) and that i didn't understand (explain it to me)....so a shareholder brings

up a question that will save 100's of thousands per year.....and it is passed over.

 

with medicare, my mom uses oxygen at night, uses a concenrater at 2L.   The unit brand new sells for $795....and runs many

years without a problem...medicare paid $197 a month....well our supplier bellyached he couldn't make any money at that

and figured out a way to go around it.  They no longer accept assignment from medicare......so we get a check from medicare

for $197 a month, and then $203 from BCBS....because he charges us $400 a month.....and the policy says it will pay 120%

of what medicare will pay........so....he was getting $197 a month.....now getting $400 !!!  with oxygen, you must provide

oxygen for 5 years, but you get paid for 3 years........so.....tell me if he is making money....$14,400 for the use of the unit,

the unit cost $795, maybe $300 for tubing for that number of years...no need for repairs for 5 years..and they come by

once every 6 months.

 

i talked to medicare about it, they said it was perfectly legal.....but understood my "concern"

i talked to bcbs......same thing !!

 

things just don't make any sense.....and nobody cares, or don't want to do anything.

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Re: On "keeping your doctor"....


@elcheapo wrote:

I' think the idea of the article was, today, we have more and more "less educated people", doing what the "educated" people used to

do.  For example..years ago we did not have PA or ARNP....you saw a MD..but, we are "told" there are fewer doctors, so we

have to used "extenders". The theory is, most medicine is rather "routine", so someone of lesser training is able to

manage things.....the more advanced cases are left to the MD...I know of a national ranked diabetes center/clinic...only 1 MD

and several PA's and several ARNP, that people see, and then see dieticians...you might see the MD once a year or so.

 

BUT...it depends where you are at, there are places where there are plenty of doctors, and easy to get in...example.

I am needing to see an endocrinologist, rhumemotolgiest, neurologiest, and should see a cardiologist once a year.

On average I must wait 3 months, and travel 150 miles, to get something of "quality"...although there is a cardio closer.

 

on the other hand, i can call to mayo's and get in to see all the above, in less than a month !

 

our local practice has been sold out to a large regional hosp....which has been buying up clinic and small hospitals...

with the theory, they must be big in order to survive due to cuts...i have noticed our local doctors don't work much

past 5 pm anymore...no incentive...you work so many hours and get paid x, and that's it...no "investment" in patient

care anymore...so the big hosp tells you how to practice.....saying they are making little money....my responce is,

"oh really"....seems the head of the hospital is doing well....funny how they make bigger and bigger donations to their

"foundation"....yet they say they are making no money, and they have cut our services....just a bunch of lies.

 

it's getting anymore, i fear getting sick....not knowing what the local hospital and hospital will do...they have turned everyone

into robots...and there is palpated friction between the staff and management.

 

anymore, i am starting to feel i have to travel almost 250 miles to a metro area to get advanced care...or perhaps i should say

"qualifited care".

 

it's boiled down to money money money....two examples...you wonder why your insurance is so high...one of the problem is the

insurance co....they don't care, because they are making money hand over fist.

 

i have to test my blood several times a day....looking at the stuff on my insurance co website, the particular strip i use they

allow $103 for 100 strips....i got them friday....yep, that is what they did....well they give me two boxes of fifty, on the side of

the box was the price tag....$43....so that is $86....full pharmacy price....does anyone see anything wrong ?

since i am a member of a mutual, i called one day....since i am a member, i am a owner.....i brought up the point where

we, as a company, and shareholder, could save hundred of thousands of dollars each year if allowed to use 'generic" strips

they said i didn't understand medicine...(wrong) and that i didn't understand (explain it to me)....so a shareholder brings

up a question that will save 100's of thousands per year.....and it is passed over.

 

with medicare, my mom uses oxygen at night, uses a concenrater at 2L.   The unit brand new sells for $795....and runs many

years without a problem...medicare paid $197 a month....well our supplier bellyached he couldn't make any money at that

and figured out a way to go around it.  They no longer accept assignment from medicare......so we get a check from medicare

for $197 a month, and then $203 from BCBS....because he charges us $400 a month.....and the policy says it will pay 120%

of what medicare will pay........so....he was getting $197 a month.....now getting $400 !!!  with oxygen, you must provide

oxygen for 5 years, but you get paid for 3 years........so.....tell me if he is making money....$14,400 for the use of the unit,

the unit cost $795, maybe $300 for tubing for that number of years...no need for repairs for 5 years..and they come by

once every 6 months.

 

i talked to medicare about it, they said it was perfectly legal.....but understood my "concern"

i talked to bcbs......same thing !!

 

things just don't make any sense.....and nobody cares, or don't want to do anything.


I buy test strips 100 at a time. I pay for them myself. I used to go to CVS and get Breeze2. $120 for 100 strips.  Now  I go to Kroger Pharmacy. 100 strips $35.  That is how you bring down the price of health care. 300,000,000 Americans looking for the best deal.

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Re: On "keeping your doctor"....

You can keep your doctor!

 

GET YOUR OWN WALLET OUT OR USE YOUR CREDIT CARD!  IF Obama care is too expensive for you, go the freemarket capitalist way and pay your own damned bills. Or won't your doctor take cash?

You know what? You ford dealer or cadillac dealer won't take what he took lAST YEAR. NEITHER WILL JOHN DEERE OR  CATAPILLAR. NEITHER WILL YOU CAR INSURANCE OR HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE AND OBAMA DIDN'T HAVE A DAMN THING TO DO WITH THAT!

 

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Re: On "keeping your doctor"....


@OKdon wrote:

You can keep your doctor!

 

GET YOUR OWN WALLET OUT OR USE YOUR CREDIT CARD!  IF Obama care is too expensive for you, go the freemarket capitalist way and pay your own damned bills. Or won't your doctor take cash?

You know what? You ford dealer or cadillac dealer won't take what he took lAST YEAR. NEITHER WILL JOHN DEERE OR  CATAPILLAR. NEITHER WILL YOU CAR INSURANCE OR HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE AND OBAMA DIDN'T HAVE A DAMN THING TO DO WITH THAT!

 


Even if you pay all of your own medical bills but carry no insurance you still have to pay into Obama care. Just like the mob.

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Re: On "keeping your doctor"....

don't you carry health insurance.  I would think a god fearing man would want  to heelp others! Or do you just buy insurance so they help you with your doctor bills

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Re: On "keeping your doctor"....

What do you have against the CVS employees and the employees of Breeze 2?  Don't they deserve to make a living wage?  You shop for the best price?  Shame on you.  You are unAmerican and a cheapskate!!!!