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Parlor term that I’ve seen

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Re: Parlor term that I’ve seen

Obama`s G-men had a change in mission after the unimaginable "Trump won".  Then it became a ridiculous explanation of why Hillary lost...and when everything was "going so well too after the previous 8 years", it couldn`t be that the American voters rejected, can`t be.


Here`s Obama before the election when Hillary was still a shoe in by 10 points.



Re: Parlor term that I’ve seen

The rumor I heard is that Trump has been sleeping with a model from a former Soviet country...even has a kid with her.


Reading the article that Bruce posted makes me yearn for those days when you could discern what was real and what was Onion satire.

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BA, did you read the article bruce posted?

I really have to wonder where those who still support your dear leader get their information on how the world works.  A poor foreigner like me has known for quite a while now that the Russians did interfere in the election that selected your dear leader (just to remind you the electors in your country did not want the result they got with almost 3 million wanting a different option) 

So where do you get your misinformation?

Does it bother you that you keep spewing out things that are just patently wrong?

Do you worry about what your support of this dear leader is doing to your country?

How many sources supply you with the misinformation you keep repeating?


If you did not read bruce's link at least read the selected parts I post below


Let me put my cards on the table: The counterintelligence investigation of Donald Trump was kicked off by not one, not two, but multiple SIGINT reports which set off alarm bells inside our Intelligence Community. This has been publicly known, in a general way, for some time. A little over a year ago, the Guardian reported, based on multiple intelligence sources, that the lead was taken by Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ – Britain’s NSA), which “first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious ‘interactions’ between figures connected to Trump and known or suspected Russian agents, a source close to UK intelligence said. This intelligence was passed to the U.S. as part of a routine exchange of information.”

NSA isn’t just the world’s most powerful intelligence agency, it’s the hub of the whole Western spy system. In late 2015, based on GCHQ reports, the word went out to NSA’s close friends and partners to be on the lookout for any intercepts touching on Russian efforts to infiltrate the Trump campaign. They found plenty. As the Guardian explained, in the first half of 2016, as Trump’s presidential bid gained unexpected steam, Australia, Germany, Estonia, and Poland all had SIGINT hits that indicated a troubling relationship between Trump and Moscow. So, too, did the French and the Dutch—the latter being an especially savvy SIGINT partner of NSA’s.

As the Guardian tactfully phrased the matter, “GCHQ was at no point carrying out a targeted operation against Trump or his team or proactively seeking information. The alleged conversations were picked up by chance as part of routine surveillance of Russian intelligence assets. Over several months, different agencies targeting the same people began to see a pattern of connections that were flagged to intelligence officials in the U.S.” In other words, Western intelligence agencies that were eavesdropping on the Kremlin and its spies—not Trump or any of his retinue—heard numerous conversations about Trump and his secret Russian connections. As I’ve told you previously, senior Kremlin officials got very chatty about Trump beginning in late 2014, on the heels of his infamous Moscow trip, and NSA knew about this.


The official went on: “We had several reports in late 2015 and early 2016, mostly from Second and Third Party”—that being spy-speak for NSA’s foreign friends—“but by the spring of 2016 we had plenty of our own collection.” These reports, based on multiple intercepts, were tightly compartmented, that is, restricted to a small group of counterintelligence officials, given their obvious sensitivity, but they painted an indelible picture of a compromised GOP nominee. “The Kremlin talked about Trump like he was their boy, and their comments weren’t always flattering.” The NSA official stated that those above-top-secret reports left no doubt that the Russians were subverting our democracy in 2016—and that Team Trump was a witting participant in the Kremlin’s criminal conspiracy: “Trump and his kids knew what they were doing, and who they were doing it with,” the official explained.

This information helps explain why James Clapper, our country’s most experienced spy-boss, recently amplified his previous statement that our president was Vladimir Putin’s “asset” by explaining that he has “no doubt” that Russian spies “swung the election to a Trump win.” This weekend, Clapper stated that he was “absolutely” unaware of the FBI’s use of informants to gain information about the Trump campaign in 2016. Tellingly, Clapper said nothing about top-secret-plus intelligence which might have spurred the Bureau to rustle up some informants in this case—and, like any veteran spook with a half-century in the spy business, Clapper isn’t likely to blab about high-grade SIGINT anytime soon, particularly when it implicates the president in espionage and worse.

Senior Contributor

Re: Parlor term that I’ve seen

rsbs perhaps it is you that has problems discerning good info from bad.

Look around for more sources of info not just ones that agree with your beliefs.


Check out some international sources and you would know that the claims made about Russian interference were well known years ago and well documented another countries too.


Open you eyes (and mind) to see what is actually happening.

Look at what your dear leader is doing without just following lock step with what ever he says,

Live in reality not fiction.

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I'm looking at what is happening in London. This is what happens once the government disarms the citizens.



The arrest, imprisonment, and government-ordered media blackout of UK journalist and activist Tommy Robinson has set off a firestorm of protests around the world.



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Re: Parlor term that I’ve seen

You can keep trying to show these nitwit Trumpstamps but it really is an exercise in futility. Fat Nixon knows it as well , he keeps putting out false accusations and narratives just for these guys to stay bought in. He knows them, he knows how to con them, he has been doing it his whole life. He knows there is about 35-40 % that will support him , all he has to do his tear into a brown person , or someone with different religious views , or, in general , anyone different than themselves. Heck, he even has the law and order folks going after the law folks. He knows how to play them.