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r3020
Senior Advisor

Patriots

They deserve to be in the super bowl. They made fools of the Colts no matter how much air was in the balls. But Belichick is a known and repeated cheat. There are rules for a reason. If all teams are not going to follow the rules then get rid of the rule. It is obvious a fine has no meaning to Belicheat. He needs to be suspended from the super bowl. No contact with the team either direct or indirect. If he violates this then the Patriots forfeit. If the Patriots win Belicheat does not get a ring. The Patriots need to prove to the world they are the best team in the NFL without the help of a known and repeated cheat. JMHO

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BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: Patriots

Why doesn`t the NFL supply the balls?  Of course a underinflated ball can also become easier to catch on an interception too.

r3020
Senior Advisor

Re: Patriots

Well, that's what I say BA. If it is a stupid rule do away with the rule. If they are going to have the rule it needs to be enforced.

Re: Patriots

Little meaningful disincentive.

 

It is like has been said about the impracticability of taxing away inequality. What can be done that is effective is to pass laws and when people break them put them in jail or, if the prisons are full start a 3 lane, 24/7 guillotine operation. I guarantee results and no, John Galt, the world won't fall apart.

 

In this case I think an appropriate penalty would be to forfeit two year's first round choices to the Colts. Or a first and second.

 

And thus the symmetry of risk and reward become better balanced.

 

The most amusing thing is to listen to all the professional pundrity talking the NFL line two weeks before The Secular Day of the Resurrection.

 

Hey, no NFL, no job for those schmucks.

 

Kudos to Bob Kravitz at The Star for breaking the story. He's no Bob Collins but who is?

Re: Patriots

As far as the "capital" idea of a 3 lane 24/7 guillotine operation, I'm pretty sure that it would never need to be used much. Probably a few slow learners would need to get whacked but that would serve as a useful example.

 

But it wouldn't be expensive and would stand as a useful reminder.

 

For most just prison and (legal and constitutional) disgorgement of ill gotten gains, plus penaties, would be sufficient to casue a recalcualtion of the risk/reward ratio.

Red Steele
Veteran Advisor

Re: Patriots

you are a racist, Nox.

Re: Patriots

Kind of immaterial to the fact that when you permit semi-legal activity that is socially destructive and the risk/reward ratio is hugely imbalanced, that activity will take over everything.

 

What is required is to enact statutes that make it clear what is illegal and attach penalties that create sufficient disincentive.

 

Most of the activity will stop quickly. It will virtually cease if enforcement is carried out and a few persons bear the brunt of the punishment.

 

 

 

 

 

 

r3020
Senior Advisor

Re: Patriots


@hardnox wrote:

Little meaningful disincentive.

 

It is like has been said about the impracticability of taxing away inequality. What can be done that is effective is to pass laws and when people break them put them in jail or, if the prisons are full start a 3 lane, 24/7 guillotine operation. I guarantee results and no, John Galt, the world won't fall apart.

 

In this case I think an appropriate penalty would be to forfeit two year's first round choices to the Colts. Or a first and second.

 

And thus the symmetry of risk and reward become better balanced.

 

The most amusing thing is to listen to all the professional pundrity talking the NFL line two weeks before The Secular Day of the Resurrection.

 

Hey, no NFL, no job for those schmucks.

 

Kudos to Bob Kravitz at The Star for breaking the story. He's no Bob Collins but who is?


Belichick is the coach. He is responsible. He is the one who must feel the pain. Just like Pete Rose was ban from baseball for betting on his games Belichick should be ban from the super bowl at the least, from football as the most.

Re: Patriots

There isn't a lower to the ground, cheating snake in the world of professional sports than Pete Caroll. Holding my nose for the Pats. Even after believing that if there was ball tampering their win over Indy should be vacated.
Samthehumble
Senior Contributor

Sounds great, break the law, go to jail

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=229761

It's amusing to watch a man argue for his own incarceration.......without realizing it.

Widespread manipulation of key benchmark interest rates such as the London Interbank Offered Rate, or Libor, threatens public confidence in the financial system, and must be prevented through fines and criminal prosecution, Federal Reserve Gov. Jerome Powell said Tuesday.

How about Treasury rates?  Is manipulating them something that must be prevented through fines and criminal prosecution too?

Just curious, Mr. Powell...... and I'm sure you can figure out why.

Dealers at major Wall Street firms are alleged to have manipulated interest rates to benefit their trading positions, and banks were accused of reporting artificially low rates in the financial crisis to conceal their problems. Seven banks and brokerages have settled with regulators over alleged manipulation, and some of their employees have been criminally charged.

The Fed is a private bank; yes, they operate under a government charter but in fact so do all federally-linked banks -- which is basically all of them.

So if it's improper to manipulate various rates if you're JP Morgan, why isn't it equally improper to manipulate rates at the Federal Reserve through programs such as "QE"?