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Senior Contributor

Ponder this

Consider what Neil is saying before you just reject it as another opinion piece.

 

http://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/americans-voting-for-cuts-1.4055389

 

I once found myself in Paris, Texas, possibly the most curious juxtaposition of place names in America.

There was no public hospital in Paris. The local authorities would begrudgingly dispense a bus ticket to Dallas, two hours away, to anyone who couldn't afford private treatment. (Mentally ill people were just given a ticket to the next town; there wasn't even any pretence of caring whether they were treated).

I met an elderly woman who couldn't afford to heat her home on winter nights, which of course exacerbated her various ailments, all of which were going untreated because she lived in Paris.

She was quite open about her issues, as Americans tend to be, and at one point, I remarked that where I came from, she would at the very least be provided with basic medical care.

Well, she said, she'd heard about Canada. And that sort of system, she informed me, is socialism.

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Senior Contributor

google is your friend

https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=paris+texas+medical+center&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-...

 

"Our Paris, Texas acute-care hospital has come a long way since its inception in 1911."

 

Now my question for you is, when someone trys to sway you with outrageously false information, do you discount their opinion?

Senior Contributor

Re: google is your friend

So this hospital is a public hospital where everyone can get care?

Senior Contributor

Re: google is your friend

Look at the Google search, there are lots of medical facilities in Paris tx.  I'm sure most of them take Medicare and Medicaid.    Outside the v.a. the USA doesn't have government operated hospitals anywhere.

Senior Contributor

Re: google is your friend

Hospitals are the only places that are required by law to care for patients who have no insurance or do not have the funds to pay the bill, but you will still have to pay the hospital anyway, often in payments. The thing many do not know about hospitals is that they do not actually "care" for patients. Hospitals "stabilize" patients only.

 

For instance, if you have diabetes and go into insulin shock, they treat the shock, give you a limited supply of meds, but that's it until the next time you are ill and have to return with the same problem. They do not treat the underlying condition. A doctor of course continues to monitor your condition and prescribe medications to treat the condition. You probably knew this.

 

Paris, Texas is little different than any other town in the US in these regards except that some larger cities have clinics for the poor that charge very little and some states have better Medicade programs (for the poor) than other states.

 

BTW, I have indeed been to Paris Texas and Paris, Arkansas, but never Paris, France.

Senior Advisor

Re: google is your friend

 

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http://parisregionalmedical.com/patients-guests/hospital-bills-and-insurance/

Senior Contributor

Re: google is your friend

Ok so it is a private hospital that will give first aid and send them home with no care until they need first aid again.

 

That is what he is talking about in the article that where he comes from everyone will get care, indeed in almost every other developed country everyone gets care and the people who most need the sort of care (socialism) vote for the people who refuse to provide it for them and have them persuaded that not providing care for them is what they need.

 

The article continues

And there it was. The strange and uniquely American cognitive dissonance. I don't know if that old woman is still alive, but if she is, I expect she voted for Donald Trump.

Socialized medicine, with all its flaws, was designed precisely for people like that old woman; every other developed country in the world has such an arrangement.

But America's conservative establishment, particularly in rural and poor states, has done a superb job of convincing the people who most need government's help that asking for it is shameful — it's socialism and it's evil — and that they should effectively vote against their own economic self-interest.

Senior Contributor

Re: google is your friend

So if a person needs care they will 

a representative from the Financial Counseling Office will discuss alternative financial arrangements with you.

 

And if a person is poor and can not even afford to heat their home what 'alternative financial arrangement' might they be able to make.

 

And as Neil notes other developed countries provide care for everyone not just emergency first aid

Senior Advisor

Re: google is your friend

Yeah, they help them apply for medicaid. Medicaid pays for health care for those who can not even afford heat. Expensive heat coming from bird slaughtering stupid windmills.

 

 

Senior Advisor

Re: google is your friend

His answer is no. What ever fits his beliefs.