Positive things to Ponder for 2011

[Red Steele]

With all the negative nancy news that we hear, lets take a few moments to talk of positive messages.

 The tea party patriots voted out scores of spend thrift liberals and forced the republicans to actually talk and walk like conservatives.

Obama failed to become the second coming of FDR, and we still have the right to own gold, land, and to store and keep our commodities.

The five members of the supreme court that are the backbone of ensuring that the USA remains a capitalistic country are seemingly in good health, and should survive the next two years, preventing Barry from changing the court to one that mirrors his socialistic ideals. The nutty appointments he did make will serve as a beacon for the next 30-40 years as a warning to the electorate as to why you never turn the keys over to an inexperienced driver.

Social issues that influence American behavior are openly being discussed and hopefully a frank discussion will result in some fruitful changes or at least we will cohese around a central position of "why" things are the way they are. For someone to be able to "tell it like it is", we actually need to acknowledge how it actually is.  Why do we pay single people money to have kids? Why do non-heterosexual people want to get marital recognition? Why are healthy babies aborted while millions of adoptive parents cannot get the baby they dream about? Open discussions are good for democracy

Happy 2011!

[ollie2655]

GREAT POST and sent the libs RUNNING again

[darfen1]

How it is.

Who gets paid to have kids?

If you are referring to Welfare, we all know that the system, is being abused, some lazy person will always find enough effort to find a hand out when the system was intended to be a temp hand up.

Let gays get married they are entitled to as much misery as the hetero.

Healthy babies are sadly aborted because of circumstance, and millions of kids are out there now waiting to be adopted,however most want the "new baby" not a child who comes with their own issues and baggage because they were born to families  or single mothers that don't have the skills to be a parent.

[4wd]

The first thing I want is for all you disingenous red neck  eldrugbolimbo conserstv millionairs that are anti welfare to prego women, women with kids, and the homeless to mail your 2011 DCP gov checks back to the US Treasury. You want not for the feds to provide a few hundred bucks a month of assistance to someone in need, yet how the hell can you possibly take 10's of thousands of dollars in gov cash DCP money just because you signed up for the farm program. Until you start walking the walk you ain't worth my spit.

[Red Steele]

not sure why the "eldrugbolimbo millionaire" or whatever you are talking about , takes the government money, but I sure know why I take it. All my competitors do, and it is factored into my budgets. I have no problem with the elimination of federal money to crop insurance, either. Take federal crop insurance away, and the jerk that is farming 30,000 acres in my area, stopping a score of young farmers from expanding, disappears in one year. No bank around would finance him.

Who peed on your wheaties?

[Red Steele]

welfare ends after five years, in most cases now, thanks to a conservative congress and that conservative president that embraced the contract to America (Bill Clinton).

the earned income credit, and how it is skewed to go to unwed couples is the monstrosity I refer to. Two people having kids together, low income...Married...most cases, no credit.   THey are unwed, facts are the same, the government sends them $5000 per year. Doesn't take an Einstein to figure out what will happen with this fact pattern.

The new Republican counter proposal is to give a credit to single men, that is available if a woman with children marries them. A woman marrying a man, hmmm...I guess that is an archaic thought.

[idalivered]

the republican party has no intention of overturning abortion. do you understand? No intention at all. They just let you and other use it as a rallying point. They had republican control of the whitehous and congress during the the last administrationand made NO attempt at overturning roe/wade. I don't favor abortion(a poor choice for birth control), but will not tell you that you can't have one. Your other points on the tax status of married/unmarried couples are valid and it appears no one has confiscated our weapons, ammo, freedom of the press and right to worshiip where and how we choose. Again, the big republican party will allow you and other blue collar conservatives to make noise about abortion, but it is not even a consideration. And keep sending your checks, they'll do what they can!  Restricting it state by state would be a remote possibility.

[r3020]

Idelivered, the repubs do want to over turn abortion. Why do you think the dems threatened to filibuster George W Bush's supreme court nominees. Unborn babies are human beings. They should have the same protection under the Constitution as you and I. It is not birth control it is murder. Life is cheap.

[Red Steele]

a few facts about abortion

The surgical procedure is nothing new to mankind, according to my readings, it was a basic surgery skill commonly practiced by doctors 2000 years ago. Roman physicians were well versed in how to surgically remove a baby. The full term delivery of an infant that was too big for a vaginal delivery even took the name of a famous Roman that , according to legend, was born by "caesarian section".

In all parts of the world, human populations have struggled with over population, too. In Polynesian islands such as Tonga, there was always a finite number that the island could support. Surplus people would leave via outrigger canoes, and take their chances of finding new land, rather than staying and starving with the tribe. Certain people were selected to have the honor of having children, and those that were not were expected to lose any children conceived, the method written about on Tonga was to place a hot stone on top of the woman's stomach, to kill the baby in the womb. So a woman expecting a child that was doomed to have to kill it by decree would willingly get into a likely suicide canoe and take her chances with the surplus men.

In another part of the world, two Scandinavian countries took different paths to controlling population. One of the countries had fairly strict moral codes, and this encouraged late in life marriages, and many old maids and bachelors that never married. The other country was probably not as moral and would drown surplus babies. Also, any baby that was not "perfect" would meet this fate, too. Maybe this is a reason why this country is noted today for the beauty of its inhabitants. But beauty is something that is only skin deep, and if someone is cold and ugly inside, they are not a very beautiful person.

Abortion and infanticide have no doubt been part of the American heritage for over 300 years, too. We are a product of the peoples that have tried to melt together here. Diverse people. The libertarian view is to let people do what they want, as long as they let you do what you want. If there are not any universal rights and wrongs, I guess this works. The Nixons, Rockefellars, Bush Sr., etc. all seem to be content with the Roe vs. Wade law, and made no moves to overturn it. I do think Bush Jr. did try to appoint to the supreme court Judges that are not so inclined to accept that legal abortion should be a permanent part of the American legal landscape.

If Republicans do desire to make legal abortion a thing of the past, they should try to create an atmosphere that would lead to women not seeking out back alley , or coat hanger abortions. A national movement to try to mimic the Scandinavians that practiced abstinence, or delayed gratification, perhaps. And a country that reveres its babies, and finds homes for them via adoption. Not a very easy order. Maybe half of America purports to be Christian , and pays homage at this time of year to an infant that did not come into the world in the way the people of His time thought a child should be born. If you read the recorded Bible stories, this is even brought up to slam the young man as an adult. In those days, Jews were taught that an "illegitimate" child would not be "saved", nor would his descendants , for several generations. A powerful force, a powerful deterrent.

Democrats should recognize how conservative America is becoming, too. The 1960's and 1970's were a different time than today is. We were a country poised for a revolution back then...all the social norms and mores were being questioned, and the birth control pill had supposedly opened up a new freedom for America. And some sort of change has happened....you cannot turn on a TV today without being bombarded by channel after channel of sexually charged TV shows. We must be a country obsessed by this, if this is what every network seems fit to show during family hours. I rarely watch contemporary TV, those that do must have a very coarse and jaded outlook towards the world. No wonder the networks attract so few people today. What a bunch of pure crappola is shown. Unregulated crap like what is on TV has set the stage for political leaders like Sarah Palin , on the right, and Tipper Gore, on the left to emerge with a crusade for decency. But talk is cheap.

[4wd]

You and those of you with like minds, that's who.

You can totally justify your taking of thousands of dollars of government handouts (DCP in particular, and also crop ins.) from the farm bill by telling yourself "It fits my cash flow", or "keeps me in competition with the neighbor": and yet diss at every chance you get the poor, unmarried women with kids, the homeless, the umemployeed and their gov. handout pittance of a few hundred of dollars every month to survive. They have no goals such as your lofty ones for taking the handouts. Their only goal is to keep on living. And you want to cut their handouts??? You are against abortion, and want no gov funding for it, but yet don't want to use gov funds to take care of the unwanted babies brought to term either. Sure don't want to take care of those prego mothers either do you. After all, you didn't make those babies. But, if there is a new gov. subsidy hand out program coming down the pike betchya you are there in line to sign up. Why? You are so self righteous, and talk such big talk of how one should take care of yourself in this world, personal responsibility should be enforced,  and yet you are in line for the gimmes the feds hand out just like the needy on the street.

You and your buddies are totally disengenous, liars, and no goods to the society. You don't walk the walk, all you can do is talk big, and smell up the place with your cigars, and, I have a feeling it wouldn't take much to blow you down. I know not why I invested any more of my time here.