Progressive Canada

[wehav]

Canada, the country furthest from meeting its commitment to cut carbon emissions under the Kyoto Protocol, may save as much as $6.7 billion by exiting the global climate change agreement and not paying for offset credits.

[Canuck_2]

Yes there has been no follow through with our commitments when we signed onto Kyoto.

The Liberal government that signed on was slow setting up any long term plan to reduce CO2 and then became hamstrung in doing anything by minority governments with the Conservatives having a big say in what they could or could not do.

We then elected a Conservtive minority government with a leader who 'believes' in CREATION not science and evolution.

He even got rid of a government position which was a science advisor to government.

Harpers government has fired employees with science credentials who came out with info and opinins against Harpers ideaology.

Science and facts mean nothing to the plans and beliefs that this government wants to carry out.

So now we find ourselves in the position of getting the 'Fossil of the Day Award' again and about to be embarrassed by our leader again.

Studies and scientific findings are ignored and we head merrily off towards the Apocolypse which our great leader believes his god is engineering.

Read more here

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/quirks-quarks-blog/2011/12/canada-an-embarrassment-at-climate-talk...

Our country's refusal to sign a new international agreement and our rumoured withdrawal from the Kyoto Protocol put us in first place, above the United States, for our lack of action to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

Meanwhile, three reports released recently suggest the climate change issue is only getting worse.

One study, from the Canadian Centre for Climate Modelling and Analysis at the University of Victoria, says that current trends for reducing greenhouse gas emissions will not be enough to prevent global temperatures from rising more than 2 degrees Celsius by the end of the century.  That target is considered by many to be a tipping point for the climate, whereby the planet will not reduce its temperature for perhaps another millennium.

And another good read is this 

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/quirks-quarks-blog/2011/11/old-folks-perspective-on-the-environmen...

Checking out at the store, the young cashier suggested to the older woman that she should bring her own grocery bags because plastic bags weren't good for the environment.

The woman apologized and explained, "We didn't have this green thing back in my earlier days."

The clerk responded, "That's our problem today. Your generation did not care enough to save our environment for future generations."

She was right - our generation didn't have the green thing in its day.

Back then, we returned milk bottles, soda bottles and beer bottles to the store.  The store sent them back to the plant to be washed and sterilized and refilled, so it could use the same bottles over and over. So, they really were recycled ... but we didn't have the green thing back in our day.

[r3020]

Well, you'll have another election coming up before long. We will even send Big Algore up where to campaign for him. He can explain to the canucks how the internal combustion engine is the biggest threat mankind faces. He has all of the scientific evidence to prove it. Let the people know the truth and your country can be saved.

[Canuck_2]

No election until 2015.

These guys have over 3 years to continue with their ideaology with their support from 40% of the voters.

Here is some more thoughts about how embarrasing our government has become.

Now discriminating against those who have a different opinion than their leaders.

http://www.frankejames.com/debate/?cat=370

“The government of Canada has no right to determine what is an acceptable opinion for an individual citizen, on climate change or any matter of public interest,” said Charlie Foran, President of PEN Canada, “To do so is clearly not in the spirit of the Charter and the long history of freedom of expression in Canada.”

Greg Hollingshead, Chair of The Writers’ Union of Canada, “The right to freedom of expression includes freedom from official disapproval, including the sort of bureaucratic interference encountered by Franke James.”

[Canuck_2]

Just so you know, not all Canadians agree with our governments stand.

Canadian Environment Minister Peter Kent’s opening address on Wednesday at the UN climate change conference in Durban, South Africa, in which he affirmed that Canada would not make a second commitment to the Kyoto Protocol, was disrupted by six young people who stood and delivered a protest message.

The six members of the Canadian Youth Delegation stood as Kent began his speech and turned their backs, revealing the message “Turn Your back on Canada” on their T-shirts.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/12/07/un-climate-kent.html

[bruce MN]

Why, pray tell, are you making it a point to rip into Canada for doing exactly what your politics would have you wish that we would do? You'd take a government here led by people such as the conservatives that are in the majority there now in a heart beat.

I'm not quite sure what you are getting at here, other than to take a swipe at Canuck 2. Which reeks of hypocrisy in light of your political views.

[r3020]

I think he was congratulating Canuck on a job well done.

[bruce MN]

Oh. OK

[GoredHusker]

I have a gut feeling the oil companies are behind a lot of the emissions controls we see here in the States.  No one has really ever been able to explain to me how we're actually cutting emissions when these new engines are burning a higher percentage more fuel than the percentage of emissions they're supposedly lowering.  I don't have a problem with controlling pollution, but are we really controlling pollution when we're about the only ones doing it?  I find it truelly amazing that engines made in Europe get superior fuel efficiency when compared to here.  In order to meet our emission standards, a lot of these European engines must be fitted to meet our standards but then have fuel efficiencies reduced 30%. 

I see where car maufacturers are finally putting turbos on small V4 gas engines getting excellent fuel mileage.  Considering fuel injection has been out for decades, I'm appalled that we're just getting around to this.  I wish I had a dollar for every barrel of oil we've wasted over the past two decades.     

[Nebrfarmr]

My dad used to have a dodge caravan with the factory turbo 4. It could haul 7 people, get close to 30MPG on the flats, and had more power than I thought a minivan should have. He bought it used, and sold it with 150,000 or 160,000 trouble free miles.