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Senior Advisor

Re: Pure genius

You might discuss that point with folks that have played the capitalist game and won. I suppose if you are an abject failure in the business world you might conclude it is a socialist country. Unfortunatly, If you focus on growing your business and your wealth, you might get somewhere instead of blaming your failure on a socialsist society.

 

Do you suppose socialism made BA and Red's wealth or do you think it is those socialist subsidies.

Senior Advisor

Re: Pure genius

So you are saying, that America would be better of if fewer students could afford college? Is that the jist of your argument?

Senior Advisor

Re: Pure genius


@kraft-t wrote:

So you are saying, that America would be better of if fewer students could afford college? Is that the jist of your argument?


Im saying cheaper loans will never make college more affordable. It will only lead to higher tuitions. What good is a college education if you can not pay off your student loan and have to live as as indentured servant to the lending institution? Let college loans be discharged in bankruptcy like any other debt. Banks won't be so quick to make the loan, colleges will not fill their classrooms, they will have to lower the cost to bring in more students.

Senior Advisor

Re: Pure genius

Where do you think the average student will be able to qualify for an education loan without the government guarantee? Especially if the loans can be discharged with bankruptsy?

 

Bankers can lend money for education but they won't without the government guarantee.

 

Secondly, do you think it is a bad idea for our youth to be educated? Or do you think they are being indoctrinated by the education system? I suppose your biggest regret is that the educated are apt to reject your religious folly.

 

Do you think tuitions should be lowered? Why? Because coleges are making to much money? Their staffs are over paid? What is your reason? Colleges are businesses just like yours and mine. They strive to make more money just like you and I do. Do you think that bankers denying loans to farmers will make john deeres cheaper? Is that a good thing?

 

 

Senior Advisor

Re: Pure genius

I thought competition set price. I didn't know that loans made increased prices. So therefore less students would result in lower prices and america would be better off?

Senior Advisor

Re: Pure genius


@kraft-t wrote:

Where do you think the average student will be able to qualify for an education loan without the government guarantee? Especially if the loans can be discharged with bankruptsy?

 

Bankers can lend money for education but they won't without the government guarantee.

 

Secondly, do you think it is a bad idea for our youth to be educated? Or do you think they are being indoctrinated by the education system? I suppose your biggest regret is that the educated are apt to reject your religious folly.

 

Do you think tuitions should be lowered? Why? Because coleges are making to much money? Their staffs are over paid? What is your reason? Colleges are businesses just like yours and mine. They strive to make more money just like you and I do. Do you think that bankers denying loans to farmers will make john deeres cheaper? Is that a good thing?

 

 


Easy $ = higher tutition rate. If colleges can't get the students through the door because of cost they will have to lower cost. More government spending will do nothing but increase waste and fraud.

Veteran Advisor

Ok SHifty

from what I gather, you tried your hand at a non-socialist business ( selling cars) and failed. You have made a few bucks, through inflation, by buying farmland under a mostly socialized farm system.

 

WTF do you know about making moiney under free enterprise and capitalism?

 

and, just for the record, I bought my first farm with off farm earnings...I guess I know a thing or two about the business world.

Senior Contributor

Re: Pure genius

Match the colors to see the response to your quote.

 

 

"Easy $ = higher tutition rate. If colleges can't get the students through the door because of cost they will have to lower cost. More government spending will do nothing but increase waste and fraud."

 

So if a small business can easily get a loan to open up, it will result in higher prices for what those businesses sell? If fewer businesses can't get loans because of the cost, they will have to lower their prices? The more SBA loans that go out for starting small businesses "means nothing but increased waste and fraud?"

 

I'm just transfering your logic from one business to another and seeing if it flies.

 

Senior Advisor

Re: Ok SHifty

What makes you think my car business failed?  I sold out my interest in the ford dealership to another stockholder at a profit. Where do you get this stuff.

 

The capitalist in me bought the first farm during the farm recession of 1986. I paid for that farm with production earnings from that farm and rented farms. I'm sorry about the capital gains but most anyone that bought farmland in that era has enjoyed a significant capital gains. If I hadn't had those gains i would still own the ground and still be farming it. 

 

It bewilders me abit that you don't relate capital gains with capitalism. You might discuss your theory with Warren Buffet or most any other wall street bigwig to see if they agree that capitalist don't buy assets and harvest gains from appreciation. I always thought that investors were hoping for inflation or inflated values for their stock. How is that not capitalism at work?

 

I suggest you convince your fellow farmers that their wealth doesn't really count because their socialist payments made them wealthy. That they really don't know how to function in a capitlist society. They might just tell a snot nosed kid to stfu until he knows what he is talking about.

 

 

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Re: Pure genius


@KNAPPer wrote:

Match the colors to see the response to your quote.

 

 

"Easy $ = higher tutition rate. If colleges can't get the students through the door because of cost they will have to lower cost. More government spending will do nothing but increase waste and fraud."

 

So if a small business can easily get a loan to open up, it will result in higher prices for what those businesses sell? If fewer businesses can't get loans because of the cost, they will have to lower their prices? The more SBA loans that go out for starting small businesses "means nothing but increased waste and fraud?"

 

I'm just transfering your logic from one business to another and seeing if it flies.

 


No, because a small business is not like a college. It is run by one or two people who run it for a profit. The bank will not loan to the business if it doesn't have a solid finacial plan knowing if the business files for bankruptcy it could stand to loose a lot of money, something a bank doesn't have to worry about making student loans. Also a small busiess is run much more effciently because the owners are using their own capital to operate. For the most part colleges not for profit. They are run much like the veterans administration. No one is ever held accountable.