Question for BA

[dwillinois]

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@henrikstudson wrote:

I understand what they are trying to do with the safe t act.  Well documented that non whites receive higher bail amounts than whites as well as length of sentences if found guilty.   Instead of no bail money required to making punishments equal across the board would be better.   Those with the financial resources usually end up getting a slap on the wrist while the less fortunate get locked up for the same offense.   

As for the second amendment, will agree with the founding fathers, you should be able to have all the muskets and flintlocks you want. Illinois ban will fail when you have the conservative states next to it that wants guns in the hands of every citizen including 6 year olds.  A nationwide ban would work better. 

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Murderers and rapists no matter what color they are are still murderers and rapists, no bail means they get out for free so are you trying to make it more fair at the expense of law abiding citizen in the name of wokeness?

And your 2nd response is standard bs talking point and so is your bail reform bs  

You ever see what a shotgun does to something or a musket, you turn in your guns yet?

[henrikstudson]

Read the act Dippy, people charged with rape and murder are not eligible to be released before trial. 

Yeah a shotgun can cause more damage but can you fire off 30+ rounds in less than 30 seconds with a shotgun?   I only have 1 gun, my dad’s 410 single shot.  Never fired it or expect to use it.  Doubt it would be any use against drones anyway.  

[aljessen61]

And the answer is... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uoy14h6K5TY

[henrikstudson]

Add another to the ban list.   Thanks Al. 

[dwillinois]

Bail Reform, pp. 15, 64, 96, 116, 245, 275, 279, 307, 331, 357, 414, 539, 547, 576:
• Abolishes cash bail (i.e., pretrial release

conditioned on financial payment to county to guarantee return for trial). Many statutory changes are replacing references to bail with pretrial release or conditions of pretrial release. Removes fees for processing bail.

• Requires willful flight rather than past non- appearance alone to evidence future intent to evade prosecution.

• Sets eligibility for release based on certain offenses (forcible felonies, stalking offenses, victim of abuse was family or household member, domestic battery, sex offenses, and other offenses with a real and present risk to a specifically identified person or persons) and a high likelihood of willful flight, after hearing, and requires judge to create written finding on why less restrictive conditions are insufficient to ensure appearance in court.

• Changes the offense of violation of terms of pretrial release from one class lower than the original charged offense to a Class A misdemeanor (Class C misdemeanor for misdemeanor pretrial violation).

• Permits use of a validated risk assessment tool but prohibits the tool to be the sole basis for denying pretrial release.

• May only revoke pretrial release when the person is charged with a detainable offense, another felony or Class A misdemeanor, or a violation of an order of protection. Court must consider facts after a hearing where person has defense counsel to determine revocation.

• Effective date: January 1, 2023.

Its a bad bill and full of loopholes and re defining of definitions I think you would agree and is on hold by the court 

Gun laws and bans only harm and target law abiding gun owners always have always will, criminals don't follow barrel lengths or pistol grips or trigger modifications laws and how many gun crimes in Chicago are committed with AR and how you getting off the streets in the hoods.