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Red Steele
Veteran Advisor

RFK JR on the JFK Assassination

From the Week Magazine:

 

At a public event in Dallas, Kennedy said he doubted the findings of the Warren Commission, which concluded that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in assassinating the president 50 years ago, and that his father Robert F. Kennedy thought the commission's report was a shoddy piece of craftsmanship.

 

RFK, Jr. said that his father suspected mafia involvement , which might have been a result of his crusade against organized crime. Jack Ruby , the man who shot Oswald two days later on live TV, had phone records that were like an inventory of top Mafia leaders.

 

Ok, so that had Jack Ruby alive and in custody until he died years later of cancer...does anyone believe that our government did NOT get the truth out of him????

 

 

Someone knew.

 

THis is a real conspiracy story, one with legs.

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BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: RFK JR on the JFK Assassination

Hey Red, there have also been questions if Ray was MLK`s real killer.  Even the King family have doubts http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/04/was-james-earl-ray-martin_n_95030.html

hardnox604008
Advisor

Re: RFK JR on the JFK Assassination

Sure. And it stands as an excellent example of how mass hypnotism is accomplished via a very sudden and shocking televised event.

 

But if the mob acted alone there is no reason I can find that the government would not have acted on whatever knowledge they had.

 

In terms of cui bono, Kennedy was despised by Ben Gurion because he was committed to stopping Israeli nuclear proliferation but after the assassination Israel soon had a bomb and the US said nothing. And up to that point the US gave no military aid to Israel but the floodgates opened thereafter and in the few short years to 1967 had enough military muscle to run the Arabs off the map.

 

So as far as the mob's part of it all, look to the big kahunas- the Bronfman outfit out of Toronto and links to Mossad.

 

Would also require complicity within the permanent US government of course.

 

As far as the matter of Ruby talking, the only reporter who he granted an interview to was the celebrity columnist Dorothy Kilgallen who met an intersting fate shortly thereafter.

 

http://www.jfkresearch.com/morningstar/killgallen.htm

 

PS. I became interested in the JFK assasination in recent years as I sought to better understand how the :conspiracy theorist" label is used to support official propaganda.

 

 

 

 

hardnox604008
Advisor

PS

Former Congressman Paul Findlay on the topic.

 

http://www.facts-are-facts.com/magazin/2-jfk.ihtml

r3020
Senior Advisor

Re: RFK JR on the JFK Assassination


@Red Steele wrote:

From the Week Magazine:

 

At a public event in Dallas, Kennedy said he doubted the findings of the Warren Commission, which concluded that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in assassinating the president 50 years ago, and that his father Robert F. Kennedy thought the commission's report was a shoddy piece of craftsmanship.

 

RFK, Jr. said that his father suspected mafia involvement , which might have been a result of his crusade against organized crime. Jack Ruby , the man who shot Oswald two days later on live TV, had phone records that were like an inventory of top Mafia leaders.

 

Ok, so that had Jack Ruby alive and in custody until he died years later of cancer...does anyone believe that our government did NOT get the truth out of him????

 

 

Someone knew.

 

THis is a real conspiracy story, one with legs.


I don't buy into it, Kennedy is just a spoiled brat trying to pedal another book.

johnaa
Advisor

Loony Tune Coincidence theorists

 --"Prouty has written that he believes Kennedy's assassination was a coup d'etat, and that there is a secret, global "power elite," which operates covertly to protect its interests—and in doing so has frequently subverted democracy around the world.    "a critic of the CIA, Prouty pointed out its influence in global matters, outside the realm of U.S. congressional and government oversight. His works detail the formation and development of the CIA, the origins of the Cold War, the U-2 incident, the Vietnam War, and the John F. Kennedy assassination..[2]

 

 

  Read the secret team written by "L. Flecher Pourty who worked from the "Office of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to create a similar, worldwide office and was the Chief of Special Operations, with the Joint Staff all during 1962–1963. He received orders to travel as the Military Escort officer for a group of VIPs who were being flown to the South Pole, November 10–28, 1963, to activate a nuclear power plant for heat, light and sea water desalination at the United States Navy Base at McMurdo Sound, Antarctica."         His normal duties would have been to organize the special army unites responsible for the President's security outside of DC, how ever he wasn't there and the Army united was ordered to stand down.

  It all adds ammo for those whacked out coincidence theorists

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._Fletcher_Prouty

  He describes the Global cabal

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zaYq3H1cOQ

bruce MN
Advisor

Re: Loony Tune Coincidence theorists

John...do you have any idea if Prouty was the inspiration for the man on the park bench, as played by Donald Sutherland,  talking to the Garrison character in Stone's movie?

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSw9sjqYK_I

 

johnaa
Advisor

Re: Loony Tune Coincidence theorists

  Yes.  That's in the link I provided, he was a special assistant to Stone on the movie.   The man had a fantastic career, he was person pilot for Omar Bradly and few special operations and leaders to the Malta conference with FDR Churchill, Stalin and snip--  He was there when all the clandestine operations were developed,  Must have had some very top clearance.

  His books are fascinating history, basic for understanding the PTB and how it works

 

In the summer of 1943 he was the personal pilot of General Omar Bradley, General John C. H. Lee and General C. R. Smith (Founder and President – American Airlines), among others. He flew the U.S. Geological Survey Team in Saudi Arabia, October 1943, to confirm oil discoveries in preparation for the Cairo Conference. He was assigned to special duties at the Cairo Conference and the Tehran Conference November–December 1943. He flew Chiang Kai-shek's Chinese delegation (T. V. Soong's delegates) to Tehran.

An important mission he was involved in was the evacuation of the British commandos made famous by the novel Guns of Navarone involved in the Battle of Leros from Leros to Palestine. In 1945 he transferred to Southwest Pacific and flew in New Guinea, Leyte and was on Okinawa at the end of war. He landed near Tokyo at the time of their surrender with the first three planes carrying General Douglas MacArthur's bodyguard troops. He flew out with American POWs.

 

Between 1946–49 he was assigned by the U.S. Army to Yale University, where he also taught, to begin the first USAF ROTC program. From 1950–52 he transferred to Colorado Springs to establish Air Defense Command. From 1952–54 he was assigned to Korean War duties in Japan where he served as Military Manager for Tokyo International Airport (Haneda) during the US Occupation.

From 1955–1964 he was assigned to U.S. Air Force Headquarters where he directed the creation of an Air Force worldwide system for "Military Support of the Clandestine Operations of the CIA", as required by a new National Security Council Directive, 5412 of March, 1954. As a result of a CIA Commendation for this work he was awarded the Legion of Merit by the US Air Force, and was promoted to Colonel being assigned to the Office of the Secretary of Defense.

With the creation of the Defense Intelligence Agency by Secretary McNamara and the abolishment of the OSO, he was transferred to the Office of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to create a similar, worldwide office and was the Chief of Special Operations, with the Joint Staff all during 1962–1963.

johnaa
Advisor

Re: RFK JR on the JFK Assassination

  I think one problem is because of the way there presented in movies, about everybody has images of how Intelligence and Black Ops are organized, the shady criminals involved and intrigues.

 

  I watched a Spanish movie the other night set in in the last year the Spain ruled the world.  The main character is a Captain Diego Alatriste.  During this time most of the important work was done by "contractors" who are cut throats on the side.   I think that is the proper frame of mind to view the CIA, Massod, etc..   In governments there are the behind the scene rouges who manipulate and conspire for control.

 

  It's a he!! of a movie--  Great costunes and locations  You can watch it  on

U-tube with english

subtitles.  I'm going to watch it again now that I don't nee to read them to follow the plot. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zaYq3H1cOQ

 

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