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Senior Contributor

Re: Republican plan

You know, BA. I've just come to realize something. If you could have a rational, reasonable thought, you might be dangerous. What you just wrote is so full of utter nonsense and obviously unproven horse sh*t. You sound like a jealous little kid! Who has no respect for people that have managed to have something you think you won't have. How old are you?? SS has a 2.5 trillion dollar SURPLUS, it's in great shape until 2049. Your listening to A G*D **bleep** BUNCH OF LIARS, I also suggest you need some serious anger management, son your news sources are driving you nutsy-cookoo!

Veteran Advisor

Re: Republican plan

Sorry but I'm not a snowbird.  I don't own a motorhome ( wish I did) and I don't own a home in the midwest.  I haven't hit the lottery and am still trying to pay off debt incurred while working.  Also, SS is not something you retire on.  It also isn't a welfare program.  It is more like an insurance policy to ensure that you have at least some money if all else fails.  BTW, I got a SS raise in 2009.  Brought me up to $274/mo.  I also don't have a problem with retired people with an income of a few hundred thou not drawing a monthly check.  Actually, I think they should get a lump sum of the amount they paid in and a hearty "thanks" and never get to draw another dime.  Pretty radical huh!

Veteran Advisor

Re: Republican plan

Have never heard of having to pay a fee just to challenge something in court.  I would imagine that it might cost more if you fail to prove your case but can't really agree that there is a fee.  Looked at how things are in CA on a website designed to help you fight these tickets and they make no reference to a fee to challenge and they do all sorts of weird things there.

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Senior Contributor

Re: Republican plan

Hey GTO, how many workers are there today supporting each social security receipient?  3 is the answer. In the `50s it was about 100 workers paying in for each receipient, that might have been sustainable, but we`re going the wrong way. When we get down to 2 or 3 workers supporting 1 receipient no matter how you try and put lipstick on that pig it`s still welfare. The way it`ll be fixed is yoy millionaires will be subject to "means testing" and the retirement age will be raised. Of course a country that can "print" it`s own currency won`t go broke they`ll inflate their way out, that fat $1,000 monthly SS check may only purchase a loaf of bread one day, just because greedy people were too stupid to make some sensible sacrifices now. Sad? Youbetcha.

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Veteran Advisor

Re: Republican plan

What is it that you and ms. palin are sacrificing?  Not much Ibetcha!  Doing without cable TV is not much of a sacrifice.

Senior Contributor

Re: Republican plan

What you obviously don't understand, is the **bleep** government RAIDED SS, money WE put in for 50 yrs. I want it back! Some how you have a the twisted idea, it's only Democrats on SS?? The government OWES us our money back, it's not now or has it ever been welfare, we financied it, and the government spent it, with the promise to pay it back, now PAY UP!!

Senior Contributor

Re: Republican plan

Yeah, your Bill Clinton used the SS lockbox to supposedly have budget "surplus".  It`s probably alot easier for me to look at Soc Sec as welfare because I`ve always lived under the assumption that I would never have it,  I  looked at it like it was just another tax that helps the elderly. Probably only half the elderly actually need it, that`s where the money is.  We can all agree Warren Buffet doesn`t need it, the local 70 yr old heir to a scotch tape manufacturing company with a  mansion on a hill doesn`t need it.  Those with over.. Oh, I don`t know...$1 million net worth don`t need it, to them it`s gravy.  Then you have those who`s only income is that SS check, if there`s snow storm (back before direct deposit) and the mail was delayed they couldn`t afford to eat for that day or two. Those with the mindset that  "This is my god damned money and by god it`s owed to me blah blah blah" are going to drag the whole system down and we`ll all be roasting squirrel and heating with cow dung all because some greedy people think the social security administration should pay for their RV fillups. You know going south is a luxury not a necessity and certainly not some birthright earned by crossing the 65 yr old finish line. In signing up for the farm program a farmer has to sign saying he doesn`t make ove $550,000/yr to be elgible. Why not have to show your net worth is below $1 million to collect Social Security?

Veteran Advisor

Re: Republican plan

  Some of the municipalities have that  for an appeal process requirement. If you want to question or force them to prove your guilt, they make you put the money up front, but if you are guilty they will accept payments with an added fee, of course. There were a few laws that applied to that challenge fee that took effect on the first of the year but I don't know if it applies state-wide or not as I would have to research it or look it up.

  The same thing is done with the toll-road I-Pass, and if you have one they make you put a credit or debit card number up for access to it, and if the transaction doesn't go through they take a long time to notify people, which by then the late fees and penalties are often times in the hundreds of dollars.

  They seem to be working towards a toll system without any human participation, and all the tolls will be collected or charged electronically. The only time we use any toll roads is on a bus going into the city, and we don't have an I-Pass, or intend on ever having one. The roads aren't much better than any others and you already pay for the upkeep in motor fuel taxes, and we don't see the value in paying twice for the same thing. That doesn't even include the notion that some of those toll roads have been sold off to foreign companies too. 

Senior Contributor

Re: Republican plan

What you just stated fits "retired " farmer in our area do collect their SS, annual farm subsidies for the year than  climb in their $200,00.00  motorhome and head south while junior pailcalf minds the farm.  Of course none of them  suckied the govt teat ,   There a lot of these "retire " farmer pulling down more in direct payts than the people you despise draw in SS .    Old Res is example drawed $11,995.00 in DP or a $1,000  a month for be in grain farming business.  So who is raping the pubic

Veteran Advisor

Re: Republican plan

Just asking BA but if someone is getting all that money from the government won't they be taxed on their income?

If you have a 'progressive' income tax system then those making the big bucks have to pay a higher tax rate.

I know in Canada they figure it is more cost effective to just let the Income tax level the field than to go through the hassel of means testing.

That said there is an enhancement to our old age security payment for those with low income and it is automatically calculated from their income tax form.

High income, you only get the basic pay, and then you pay income tax on it like all income and at progressively higher rates.